Are the "enable character" codes safe for use?

[Jowy Atreides]

I've only used the "Quick Level Up" codes and the "Quick Skill Point Gain" codes and I'm just wondering if the "Enable Character" codes are safe and won't cause any freezing or general screw-ups in the game. The only ones that seem un-safe are the un-natural ones such as Guillame and Jowy's second sprite (with the sword). The others, such as Jowy's first sprite, Jimba, Lulu, et cetera, seem to be the ones that would be safe to use, but I might as well ask anyway. One combination that seems very un-safe is using the Jowy1 and Jowy2 codes at the same time, especially placing them in the same party. Can anyone who's used both of them at the same time confirm that this won't cause any problems with the game?

Lastly, is there any sort of code (for any of the cheating devices) to enable Odessa and Ted after their respective (and rather short) times on your side?

[Goldy]

[John Layfield]

Obviously, the age-old trick to avoid such happenings is to enable the code(s) and save straight away (on a seperate save file) then reset and load up the saved file as normal. Your game should not freeze while you play then, but of course it makes codes like "Quick Level Up" and "Quick Skill Point Gain" inactive.

Then again, I could see the game freezing at a point where all parties members speak a line (like, say, Greenhill) as those characters you've added in will not have lines programmed 99% of the time causing the game to spaz out.
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[Jowy Atreides]

Yeah, I've already requested the codes for Odessa and Ted without any results. I did find the code to level up everyone quickly without having to use the individual characters' codes for Suikoden One though.

It seems like the only obstacle is using an enable character code before the character would normally be available. However, Guillame is never a combatant and yet people use his code with ease, so that doesn't remain consistent, it seems. Of course, perhaps Guillame's dueling sprite memory address could also double as his normal six-on-six sprite, so that might still be consistent.

Well, I've got the answer I was looking for.

[KFCrispy]

i don't think Odessa and Ted could be "enabled" because they probably were never added to the add/remove party list.

i've used gameshark to have all characters in Suikoden 2, (except King Jowy and "Millie w/out Bonaparte", and i don't think i found codes for Borus or Ridley). Kiba, Nanami, regular Jowy, all 4 beasts (you can also add Chuchura or just walk into the port area to see that scene and recruit him), Valeria and Kasumi. it doesn't freeze the game up but Valeria and Kasumi do occupy the same space in some events, and one talks first, then the other. heh. I never do it early to cause problems such as having characters and seeing if i can bring them to Greenhill on the student mission.

in Suikoden 3, i added Jimba and Lulu at the end of one of my games... i actually didn't check if they have dialogue in places where characters are forced to speak (like facing Luc). hmmmm
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[Hrestelan]

[Wataru]

[KFCrispy]

yeah i don't know how to modify "current party members" though, just "recruited characters"
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[Jowy Atreides]

When using the "Rune Modifier" codes, how would it work if I placed a weapon only rune (such as Hunter) on Riou's forehead slot? I don't see the codes to place a rune on the weapon anywhere.

[Wataru]

It won't say "weapon Rune modifier." The code will be called "Rune modifier"

The code for Riou is 300698A6 ????.
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[Jowy Atreides]

I thought those were the codes, but I wasn't quite sure. Thanks Wataru!

Actually, one more question: there's four ?s, but only two digits. How would I insert 2 digits with four empty fields?

[Wataru]

Just use 00 for the first two digits.
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[Jowy Atreides]

For enabling Jowy, what are the seperate codes to enable one or the other? At the Codebreaker site all they have listed is a "Jowy 1/2 ?" code.

Also, with Suikoden III's character overwrite codes, how does that work? If I were to remove special people from my party (such as Luc), would he then be available to place in my party whenever I want to without having to go back and put the code back in every time. Assuming that works, what happens to the person that's replaced? Are they gone forever until you change 'em back? With Luc, Sarah, and Yuber's rune slots, what's in those? Are they blank, or do they come with their respective True Wind, Flowing, and Eight-devil runes? The same question for various enable character codes throughout the series, actually. Like, Valeria, Kasumi and the beasts, you know.

[Wataru]

In III I don't know. In SII, enabling Kasumi and the beasts puts them in your lineup to add to your party with Leona. Just do it after you've made your choice between Kasumi and Valeria or the game will freeze when you get there. If you enable both, the game willd efault to Valeria. Even though Kasumi will speak (if you chose her) Valeria's sprite will appear and her unit will be usable in battle. Enabling Jowy, does not stick him in your party. He goes on the character list at Leona's at the end and can be added to your party normally. He looks like Jowy 1 but there are some abnormalities. I don't remember what they are, since I reset right away because I was afraid he would crash my game. Once he's in he may be locked (since Joey is always locked when he's in your party) or you may be able to remove him. If you can, it may crash the game. Again, I've never tried it.

I prefer "Walk though Walls" for level up. From the mercenary fort you can enter North Sparrow Pass, go past Kyaro into Tenzan Pass, and then go through into Highland. Sajah is open to you but going to L'Renouille crashes the game. It's kinda tricky getting into Tenzan Pass, also.

Ah, fun with Sharking...
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[Pyriel]

With regards to Suikoden III, if you add a character to the party that is not in your tavern list, they can only be put back into your party by reactivating the code. That means Luc, Yuber, Sarah, and Albert can only ever be added to your party with codes, since they can't appear in the tavern. Other characters will be available in the tavern to add back into the party. That includes Lulu (the Karayan kid that starts the game with Hugo, I think that's his name), and Wyatt's alter-ego, provided you've used either their individual recruit character codes or a recruit all characters code to get them back on the roster after they "leave".

If you replace a character that ordinarily appears in your tavern list, they will be in the tavern list when you view it. I'm not sure what you mean by "gone forever until you add them back". Replaced characters will no longer be in your party unless you put them back in it. If you replace Luc and his crew by any means, including codes, they are "gone forever", unless you use a code to put them back in the party.

Luc and his crew are stored in memory along side all the other characters, along with their equipment and stats. Depending on what phase of the game you are in, their stats may be slightly different when you add them to the party (I don't remember exactly), and they will have whatever equipment and runes they are supposed to have when you put them in your party, including the Flowing Rune and the Eight-Devil Rune. I don't recall if changes you make to their equipment are permanent once they are removed from your party, but if you level them up significantly, their stats remain, and the battles you have with them become more challenging, if I remember right.