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[Training Battle]Grasslands vs Island Nations [Concluded]
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Glen Cott

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

As the type advantage for the weaker unit will only appear 25% of the time, it usually will be the larger army that wins.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

unfortunately, a large troop advantage is a reality; battles have to reflect reality or they're just...pointless. the exception would be magicians vs. archers or magicians, since special rules apply to those troops.

as far as addressing the weaker unit issue, sophita suggested alliances for the weaker countries-teaming up to take on the larger countries. i think this would create more realism, since it's a realistic approach to a problem.

advantages depend on the troop; cavalry has the greatest advantage-mounted men move quickly and are devastating. the second would have to be archers; they can fire off up to three volleys (depending on how far away they are from the enemy), making a large unit effective and deadly.

synchisi can run this however he likes, i'm just stating i prefer to see reality have a greater influence on outcome over fantasy.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

But you see, simply 'losing' that round didn't really hurt the army. From what has been said, the real cost in this battle system is losing soldiers. And a 6000 soldier unit losing 100 soldiers isn't going to mean much for them, while a 150 soldier unit losing 75 soldiers is going to mean a lot. That isn't in effect for the training battles, but once the real fighting starts, people will lose soldiers for real.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i understand that; it's simply a suggestion, synchisi can say 'i like it' or 'it sucks and you can stuff it.' it's up to him; i'm merely stating an opinion on the matter.

practice makes perfect and this being a test run, i'm sure it's providing the info he needs to tweak the system until he feels it's how he wants the system to work.

*still likes the idea of alliances*
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Way to go Island Nations keep t up and we will win this next battle. It is time then take on those evil Harmonians. We will win this and show that we are the superior army in this world regardless of what anyone else may claim. Power to the Island Nations and down with Harmonia.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

This system is roughly based upon the Suikoden I battle system, where a small unit can easily defeat a large unit with simple strategy without taking any damage itself.

We might implement something in the future to compensate for a larger army not touching a smaller one, but it's not entirely likely, so don't count on it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Small armies should be able to defeat larger arimies with an adaquate strategy, I agree. I think the system is good as is. If it were only the larger army that won, the outcome wouldn't be very interesting. Besides, the idea in half of the Suikoden battles was to defeat an army larger than yourself.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Sure strategy should count into it big time, however maybe if the more amount of troops even if you loost that round, the casualties don't have to be server. Even if you loose that battle? Or what would be the point of having them in the first place.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

eh, it don't matter; on to harmonia vs. island nations!
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