Sharon Being a Dragon Knight

Reed · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:19 pm Post subject: Sharon Being a Dragon Knight

How is it possible for Sharon to be a Dragon Knight? Because I remember her saying how she couldn't wait to get her own dragon and have it breathe fire on her enemies and what not in Suikoden 3. I thought (based on what I remember from Suikoden 1) that one could not be a member of the Dragon Knights without a dragon, hence why Futch was expelled.

Thief · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:47 pm Post subject:

She got a golden dragon at the end of Suikoden III, if I recalled clearly.

Marshmallow · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:21 pm Post subject:

But don't they need to "bond" with a dragon by the time they're *five*?

Gaius Abruscato · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:41 am Post subject:

I was curious about this too! I thought about the same thing when I first played. It struck me as very odd that she didn't have a dragon yet... And the fact that they didn't explain any reason behind the absence of a dragon frustrated me.
If anyone knows what was going on here, assuming something was explained outside of the game, I'd be greatful to find out. Then, it may just be a plot hole... It does happen. Or I may just have missed somthing. Who knows.

Synchysi · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 1:36 am Post subject:

Well, being that Sharon is the daughter of Milia, I think it's safe to assume they made an exception for her. She seems like a spoiled child and a troublemaker, so Milia might've sent her with Futch to gain a bit of worldly experience and maybe calm her down some.
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kuwaizair · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 1:41 pm Post subject:

the dragons fear her and she needed an animal with the same personality has her perhaps?
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Thief · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 2:48 pm Post subject:

But Futch "bond" with his new dragon way past the age requirement too, didn't he?

Excalibur1027 · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:01 pm Post subject:

Yeah, but the dragon Futch originally bonded with, Black, died. Which may have been what happened to Sharon. Maybe she had a dragon at a very young age but it died somehow and now she's on a quest with Futch to find a new one, just like when Black died Futch went on a journey with Humphrey and found Bright.

But, the more I think about it, Sharon being spoiled and getting special privileges sound more beleivable.
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Gaius Abruscato · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject:

I'd have to agree with the special privelages theory...

When Black died, Futch was distraught to say the least. He deffinately bonded with that dragon. When presented with a new dragon, he was questioning whether Bright even WAS a dragon for a while (which is kind of... well... how could it not be a dragon?) I'd say a dragon knight is rather protective of their companion as the dragon is of them.
So, if Sharon's dragon died, and she didn't seen to think about that at all in-game, that would be one of the saddest things ever.

But I'm still confused by, if she were spoiled, wouldn't someone have helped her find a dragon a bit... earlier? (though spoiled, she does seem.) I would have thought that spoiling a young dragon knight would have entailed helping her find the best dragon ever, rather than letting her live as a dragon knight without a dragon.
Maybe they made an exception because there just weren't any dragons to be found?

Or more likely, Konami just forgot one little aspect of the gigantic game world they've created. It may not be easily explainable, but it sure is fun to try!

Kobold · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:18 am Post subject:

It is more likely simply that she isn't a dragon knight just yet, but more like a trainee in preperation of becoming one. Since she's Milia's daughter, she would most definitely need to become a dragon knight. However, she probably has yet to earn her right to own a dragon just yet. She'll probably just lable herself as a dragon knight anyway despite if she isn't officially recognised as one yet.

However, after the events of S3, she has obviously proven herself worthy of a dragon, and thus, she receives one and becomes a full fledged 9th tier dragon knight.
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Thief · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:25 am Post subject:

She was 5 by the end of Suikoden III then?

Stampede · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:06 pm Post subject:

I have to agree- oversight all the way. Like George Lucas thinking "Parsec" was a measure of time in Star Wars ("You've never heard of the Millennium Falcon? She's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs!").

If you want to rationalize it in some way, there could be a specific set of rules for any children the Commander has, for any number of reasons.
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Excalibur1027 · Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:05 pm Post subject:

I was thinking about it again, and I came to another possible theory. Maybe Sharon not having a dragon has something to do with the mystery of Joshua giving up the Dragon rune to Milia. Joshua had the Dragon rune for quite a long time, and it's said that dragons can't live in the world without it. Perhaps now that Milia has it and she's just getting used to the rune, maybe there's a shortage of dragons. While there's absolutelly no evidence to confirm any of this, it's still a thought.
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Stampede · Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 8:56 pm Post subject:

Something else that occurred to me- maybe when Milia took charge, she changed the rules? Say, for example, she wasn't too fond of that whole "Dragon Knight sans dragon gets their ass kicked out" rule. Being as she IS an absolute commander and doesn't really answer to anyone as far as we can tell, she'd be free to change whatever she wants.
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Excalibur1027 · Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject:

That's a possibility too. I always thought that kicking a person out, especially when their dragon just died, was a little harsh. Like in S1 when Black died, Futch was obviously upset, but all Joshua could say was "You don't have a dragon anymore, you have to leave."

It's a really stupid rule in my opinion. To me, the Dragon Knights look like they are a small force as it is, they probably loose allot of dragons in war. If I was the leader I wouldn't just go around kicking out allot of my skilled and dedicated soldiers out of my army just because they don't have a dragon. Have they been in the air so long that they've forgotten that there's such a thing as fighting on the ground?

Also, about Sharon being spoiled. The more I think about it, Milia doesn't seem like the person who would spoil their child (even if she does have a brat like Sharon as a daughter.).
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