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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

you know everyone i can beat the beast rune with 3 characters and i choosed those 3:
Riou - McDohl - Futch
and the status are:

HERO Level 66
STR 187 EXP 335 |
TECH 183 PROT 137 |
MAGIC 149 M DEF 152 |
SPEED 183 LUCK 185 |
H * Blue Gate |
---------- | rh* Bright Shield |
|HP657/657 | | lh* Fortune |
|MP LV1 9/9| | ATT 357 DEF 265 |
| LV2 5/5| | Twin Destiny Fang |
| LV3 3/3| | Level 16 ATT 170 M |
| LV4 1/1| | Rune * Exertion |
---------- --------------------------------
equiments:
Helmet:Wind Hat
Armor:Silver Armor
Shield:
Other:Goldlet
Power Gloves
Winged Boots

McDohl Level 64
STR 163 EXP 433 |
TECH 181 PROT 159 |
MAGIC 182 M DEF 160 |
SPEED 165 LUCK 161 |
H * Prosperity |
---------- | rh* Soul Eater |
|HP649/649 | | lh* Rage |
|MP LV1 9/9| | ATT 335 DEF 269 |
| LV2 7/7| | Heaven Fang Stuff |
| LV3 4/4| | Level 16 ATT 165 M |
| LV4 2/2| | Rune * Kindness |
---------- --------------------------------
equipments:
Helmut:Silver Hat
Armor:Earth Armor
Shield:
Other:Crimson Cape
Winged Boots
Winged boots

Futch Level 62
STR 139 EXP 708 |
TECH 157 PROT 109 |
MAGIC 109 M DEF 105 |
SPEED 165 LUCK 181 |
H |
---------- | rh* Thunder |
|HP570/570 | | lh* Flowing |
|MP LV1 7/7| | ATT 279 DEF 258 |
| LV2 4/4| | Sigurd |
| LV3 2/2| | Level 16 ATT 140 M |
| LV4 1/1| | Rune * Fire |
---------- --------------------------------
equipments:
Helmet:FAlme Helmet
Armor:Master Gard
Shield:Chaos Shield
Other:Crimson Cape
Lucky Ring
Crimson Cape
that was before i fight the beast rune
that's how the fight was (it took nine rounds)

round 1:
Riou:used bright shield--------->forgiven sign on the rune
McDohl:used rage-------->final falme on all the parts
Futch:used thunder---------->thunder storm on the rune
result:rune destroyed

round 2:
Riou:attacked the left head
McDohl:soul eater--------->judgment on the left leg
Futch:thunder--------------->thor shot on the right head
result:left leg destroyed

round 3:
Riou:bright shield----------->battle oath on the party
McDohl:rage----------------->explosion in all the parts
Futch:thunder---------------->thor shot on the right head
result:-------

round 4:
Riou:attack the left head
McDohl:rage---------------->explosion on all the parts
Futch:thunder--------------->thor shot on the right head
result:-----------

round 5:
Riou:bright shield--------------->battle oath on the party
McDohl:rage--------------->explosion on all the parts
Futch:thunder thunder--------------->thor shot on the right head
result:-------------

round 6:
Riou:attack the left head
McDohl:attack the left head
Futch:thunder---------------->bolt of wrath on the right head
result:--------------

round 7:
riou:attack left head
McDohl:attack left head
Futch:thunder----------->bolt of wrath right head
result:right head destroyed

round 8:
Riou:attack the left head
McDohl:attack the left head
Futch:flowing---------------->kindness rain on party
result:-------------

round 9:
Riou:attack the left head
McDohl:attack the left head
Futch:Flowing------------->kindness rain on party
result: beast rune destroyed

Levels earned:
Riou lv.71(+5 lv.) - McDohl lv.67(+3 lv.) - Futch lv.65 (+3 lv.)
pocth earned:400000 totale:999999
and that's how i destroyed him with 3 characters
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Try this for fun's sake... I did it.. Suikoen 2 isn't that hard. A party with

Hero Mukumuku Makumaku
Mokumoku Mikumiku Mekumeku

Of course this poses a certain difficulty, but it's not impossible.

Of course, the challenge includes all the squirrels being alive. Now that's the hard part isn't it? Since people can defeat beast rune with Riou alone.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I've got to try that, looks interesting, though I'll probably find it harder to recruit them....they never show up!! I've got two so far...

Suikoden 1 :-

I never spent much time on my party, as the game was so easy. I just put Tir, Pahn, Cleo, Victor, Flik, and Kirkis on my team. (not in that order)

Suikoden 2 :-

Diddn't think too much, just had Riou, Luc (good mage), Clive (He's just cool), Victor and Flik (they were there in the first game so why not bring them again), and Kahn (had an empty spot after Nanami, and he had a resurrection rune).

Suikoden 3:-

Hugo as flame Champion, Salome (just because I needed someone to stand around heal), Futch and Bright, and Franz and Ruby (just because I like mounted pairs, and they do a lot of damage easily).

Suikoden 4:-

Lazlo — You have to have him, but I found his rune to be useful, and the stats aren't that bad.
Snowe — I liked him and him and Lazlo have a great unite attack.
Kika — Great Falcon rune, and can also heal the other members.
Ted — awesome rune! And he's also used a bit for healing...His magic is pretty good so I mainly use him for offense.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Suikoden I-

Tir: Duh
Humphrey: great armor, strong.
Futch: Why not?
Flik: required
Viktor: required
Cleo: needed someone strong to bring

Suikoden II-

Riou: Obviously
Humphrey: Armor = awesome, gave him fire-sealing rune (great v Luca), strong attack
Futch: Humphrey's partner
Flik: I like Flik
Viktor: I like Viktor too
Mazus: great magic

Suikoden III-

Hugo: Flame Champion
Fubar: Mounted units rule
Geddoe: True Lighting = awesome, unfortunately he didn't attack when Chris used a rune
Chris: True Water
Futch: Again, mounted units
Bright: Again, mounted units.

Suikoden IV-

Never beat the game. Got to what appeared to be the final dungeon, just got bored out. I plan on playing it after I finish my replay of the first three games (I'm in ch. 4 of III)



Also, it's good to note I have played Suikoden I and II numerous times so the parties I posted are just the more recent play throughs. I have used many different parties. However, the constants are the heroes, Flik, and Viktor. I've only beat Suikoden III once, going to be twice, so I posted my only party for the end.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I find it hard to image that I haven't posted here yet. Anyway...

Suikoden 1 (Kill off that healing head and we're done):
Tir (Back row)
Flik (Front row)
Viktor (Front row)
Lorelai (Back row, gotta keep my favorite character safe, right?)
Kasumi (Back row)
Sonya (Front row)

Suikoden II (Easy battle, but timing was important):
Riou (Front row)
Georg (Front row)
Lorelai (Back row; gotta keep her safe, right?)
Kasumi (she can attack from the back row via the Shrike Rune)
Flik (Front row)
Viki

Suikoden III (I despise this party system):
Group 1-
Hugo (Flame Champion, True Fire Rune)
Fubar (He was Hugo's mount)
Group 2-
Fred (Sword of Cyclone)
Rico (Flowing Rune)
Group 3-
Lilly (Sword of Thunder)
Viki (Big, Blinking Rune)

Suikoden IV (This was the easiest battle I've ever won):
Lazlo en Kuldes (Punishment, Flowing, Cyclone)
Lino en Kuldes (Rage, Mother Earth, Double-Strike/Beat, one of those...)
Flare en Kuldes (Cyclone, Thunder, Flowing)
Viki (Blinking, Mother Earth, Thunder)

Notice some themes there? Lorelai, because she rocks; and Viki, because, for some odd reason, she scares me more then anyone else in the entire series. Something about going up to your teleporter, asking for a teleportation, and, just as you're being teleported off says "Oops, I've forgotten the spell again..." or "Uh-oh...". C'mon, you gotta admit, that's just scary. She could accidentally send someone of mild importance to the game into the belly of a volcano! So, why not use her to kill some bosses instead!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I've played the first three games a few times each, I'm just putting what my main constants were from memory ^^

Suikoden
Tir- Viktor- Flik
Luc- Kirkis -Kasumi

Suikoden II
Riou- Kasumi- Futch
Lo Wen- Luc- Sasuke

Suikoden III
Hugo- Sasarai
Geddoe- Juan
Fred- Percival

I know I've used the futch/bright combo too though

Suikoden IV (I think this is what I used anyway, I know the team against the tree for sure anyway)
Against the Cray
Jeane
Selma
Ted
Kika

Against the Tree
Lazlo
Hervey
Sigurd
Helmut
(okay I like pirates, and they rock :P)
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Man, how could I have missed this thread? Alright...I've played one and two multiple times (and I was going to play three a second time before my PS2 started to go all clunky on me...), so I'll post my favourite parties I suppose.

For Suikoden (always an easy battle, this one...)
Tir - Viktor - Flik
Sylvina - Lorelai - Cleo

For Suikoden II (it's amazing how much diversity between games I've got)
Riou - Viktor - Flik
Rina - Elie - Lorelai

For Suikoden III (the only one I sometimes find difficult...I'm not sure why, everyone else seems to find this guy real easy...)
Hugo - Sasarai
Geddoe - Nash
Chris - Lucia

For Suikoden IV (stupid four-man parties, how I hate thee!)
For Graham Cray -
Jeane
Paula
Keneth
Sigurd

For the evil tree thing -
Lazlo (that's the hero's name, right? :P)
Kika
Mizuki
Ted

Man, I really hate those four man parties...but in Suikoden IV, I levelled all my dudes for the final battles up to level 99 using the training thing, so it was hilariously easy.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well here's my list, keep in mind that I've only played through Suikoden III once and plan on changing that party when I play through again.

Suikoden I
Tir: I keep dropping hints that he's not needed but he just won't leave :D
Kirkis: Better at magic than attacking but good at both.
Flik: Required but a good all rounder.
Viktor: Had to have him but him constantly being counterattacked pissed me off.
Cleo: Same as Kirkis
Morgan: He was a late inclusion on my latest playthrough after I found out that Suikoden V was set in Falena, just gave him a boar rune and had him heal with items when needed.

Suikoden II
Riou: Wouldn't get rid of this guy even if I could.
Killey: My favourite character, great offense and good magic.
Eilie: I like her and she makes a good healer/attacker.
Pesmerga: You just can't argue with black armour, just plain physical damage.
Sierra: Good magic, decent attack and managable defence.
Georg/Clive/Tir: I'll probable use Tir when I get him but have used Georg or Clive in the past depending on whether I wanted a tank or another LR attacker.

Suikoden III (Only gone through once)
Hugo: He's my flame champ and can cause good all round damage.
Nei: Good at magic plus has a joguleur rune.
Futch: Good attack and decent magic plus teams up with Bright.
Bright: Good attack and can team up with Futch.
Juan: Lots of attacks and good damage makes him a powerhouse.
Sasarai: I personally liked Sasarai and he was a good offensive magician for my party.

I'm planning on starting Suikoden III again once I complete Suikoden II (again) and what I can't remember is whether or not it's possible to have Chris in my party at the end if Hugo is my Flame Champion, would someone be able to tell me?

Suikoden IV
Great Tree
Lazlo: All rounder and ends up being my main healer.
Jeane: The magician for bosses, this babe gets enough magic that you'll never run out of spells.
Kika: Falcon Rune anyone?
Gretchen: Good attack, can wear Ogre armour and has 3 rune slots making her one of the better attackers.

NOTE: Jeane, Kika and Gretchen can use the Allure Attack Unite destroying any random encounter that I come up against.

Cray
Snowe: Great physical strength, more likely to kill himself if you let him near a rune though.
Ted: His soul eater rips Cray apart
Millay: All rounder
Ameria: All rounder

If I can use Chris in my final party in Suikoden III than I will have used the Tenbi star in every game.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

This was mine for IV:

Lazlo L99

Rune of Punishment
Double-strike rune
Killer rune
Ogre set


Kika L99

Falcon rune
Fury rune
Killer rune
Pirate king set


Jeane L99

Charm rune
Thunder rune
Mother Earth rune
Hat of Wisdom
Venus armor
Venus bracelet
Magic sandals


Ted L99
Souleater
Rage Rune
Flowing rune
Guardian set

This party took down that tree in one turn and i was like wtf??? It seems there is no diffuclty in defeating the tree at all. not even with the random L50 party i had on my first playtrhough...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well...to be honest i don't think it matters all too much who you use in your final party, since the final bosses are pretty easy to beat :P
As long as everyones on level 60+, then it should be simpleeeeeee.

But, this is what i had anyway

Suikoden-
Tir
Luc
Crowley
Sonya
Flik
Viktor

Suikoden 2-
Riou
Luc
Mazus
Pesmerga
Flik
Sierra :D

Suikoden 3-

:? ...sowie, but theres too many different parties, and they change on different playthroughs...and im tired....so :P im skipping this part

Suikoden 4-
Hero
Kika
Viki
Jeane

In general, i tried not to worry too much about the strength of my characters, just that i liked them....as it turns out, most of the characters i like are lil GODS :shock:

lol :D
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Scarlet assassin wrote:
Giant tree thing with no motivation and no explanation was a lot harder than the stupid Wind Rune Incarnation, that thing was a JOKE.


Well let's admit that with a potential of 4 True Rune Bearers to place in the party (and just about everyone uses the main 3 and the 4th rune bearer is very frequently used despite his offense being nilched) it makes just about anything croak pretty quickly.

True Wind incarnation can be quite the challenge if you let the other guys sit to the side and bring in the lesser used/less overpowered characters. The tanks drop fairly quickly with no spell to repel the spell damage, you don't have the mega lightning spell to single hit kill the water incarnation that can bring everything else back. You don' get to have the team sit back so you can cast a spell and nail multiple targets. The only one that doesn't affect things so much is if you have Chris with water as she is so terrible at magic most people have another healer with flowing rune to supplement her.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Suikoden: Tir, Flik, Viktor, Crowley, Luc, and I think Pesmerga.

Suikoden II: Riou, Flik, Viktor, Sierra, Georg, and Luc

Suikoden III: Hugo-Fubar, Geddoe-Jacques, and Chris-Sasarai

Suikoden IV: Lazlo, Ted, Jeane, Maxine (magic users were so power in that game)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

My Graham cray Party
-Warlock-(Lightning,Mother Earth,Fire0
-Lino en Kuldes-(Killer)
-Konrad-(Rage, Lightning)
-Paula-(Wind,Lightning,Fire)

The Final Boss
-Hero ( Rune of Punishment, Flowing, Lightning)
-Ted (Soul Eater, Fire, Lightning)
-Jeanne-(Lightning,Rage,Charm)
-Viki-(Lightning,Fire,Wind)

i just barely beat that boss...The Giant tree specifically...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Suikoden 1

Tir
Cleo
Filk
Viktor
Valeria
Crowley

Sukoden 2

Riou
Flik
Camus
Luc
Tir
Mazus

Suikoden 3

Hugo
Fubar
Geddoe
Estella
Sasarai
Viki(big)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Okies here's my rundown.

Suikoden 1:

Valeria: Fav all time character and falcon rune every round
Viktor: Double beat <3, had to take him
Flik: Sometimes I even put him in the back row so he's just a mage, had to take him.
Tir: Soul Eater is the cheese, had to have him but wouldn't do it without!
Rubi: Useful ranged attack up to the last boss, good magic for the final battle.
Kai: Not great in the final battle itself, but it made the ride there so much easier.


Suikoden 2:

Valeria: Falcon rune now has a critical hit, exertion and double-strike!
Bob: Warewolf form and double beat cuts through anything. period.
Genshu: Horribly weak with next to no customisability, yet I always take him :p
Riou: Had to have him, Battle Oath first round gives most of the party zerk status. healer only.
Karen: Mother Earth is great on her, she casts support magic first round then earthquake once the rune is dead.
Tir: Always a mainstay, Soul Eater Judgement x3 for maximum effect ^^


Suikoden 3:

Chris (FC): Good defense and swing, had to take her
Mel: Faster than Geddoe with Thunder, plus much cuter!

Fred: Tank of tanks - massive defense + defensive skills, sword of thunder to give him fast hits
Aila: She's no slouch on patk and great affinity with the sheild rune. berzerks people first round then heals.

Ayame: With Double-Strike alone her shrike rune takes out any one of the runes in the first few seconds of the fight... add fury and:
Landis: Notoriously useless for most battles, here he has good MDF and the unite with Ayame is dead fast. Double-Strike rune and if Fury lands on either him or Ayame then its guaranteed 9999 damage to Rincar even if he defends, Mel will finish off the one round win ^_^


Suikoden 4:

Kika: Return of the beloved Falcon rune!
Lazlo: Rune of Punishment is really useful esp once it also heals.
Wendel: Once I removed the Robe of the Dead she didn't die so much, great matk with Rage/Thunder rune and a flowing rune just in case things go wrong.
Ameria: Good patk and awesome affinity with *Cyclone... healing/attack.


I dont always go for the "best" setup, I wouldn't normally take Landis in GS3 but the unite is too awesome to pass up. I very rarely take a dedicated mage with me, they're too fragile and often not good in the lead up to the boss.
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