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Milan Fiori
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:03 am Post subject: |
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It sounds more like, if you leave a nation, you lose a set amount each time. No matter how long you're in the nation for. I assume that's to stop people from say joining a nation, and then immediately changing their mind and joining another or going back to their original one. _________________ Be awed by our prowess!
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TruePerception
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: |
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Probably not, since your shifting two times shows that you are more of an all around disloyalist, rather than just disloyal to your original nation! _________________
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Fu Su Lu
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:29 am Post subject: |
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Its clear. Its some sort of punishment (more than a stat) so people will think about before leaving one nation and another once and again. _________________ The drunkest cavalry unit in the world.
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:30 am Post subject: |
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From what I read I think it is a set percentage each time you leave too, however it would be silly to lose say 10% of your KAR score if you leave a nation after 2 days - not really a true reflection of 'loyalty' there. _________________
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:43 am Post subject: |
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It is not based on how long you've been in a nation. You will be penalized the full amount regardless of how long you've been in your current nation. TruePerception had it accurate.
I am currently debating whether mercs will be subject to this. I had planned to let all mercs join their first nation for free. We shall see. _________________ ______ "We're still flying"
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AA
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: |
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So basically, if you leave a nation you are penalized by losing a certain amount of Karma.
So the way i am understanding this rule is that it cuts a stat (KAR) that can be gained back by just not moving nation again, it just stunts your growth. |
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Hawk Thanatos
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Here's an example:
Two people each have 100 karma, then one of them leaves his nation. Upon leaving his karma gets cut by 20% (just an example) down to 80, which would as a result have an effect on his other stats. Over time (assuming he didn't continually swap nations) his karma would reach 100 again, but by that time the other person who hadn't left his nation would have something like 120 karma and be stronger as a result. |
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Ujitsuna
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:10 am Post subject: |
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I don't like the idea of being effected by this when I'm not in a nation, but should I choose to join a nation down the line get penalized for doing the very thing that this feature is trying to encourage. If the point of it is to keep people in their nations, and Mercenaries aren't in a nation, doesn't it make sense to leave them out, and should they choose to join one, not be punished for that? Afterwards obviously they're no longer a Merc so it would apply normally. |
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Angelus
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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^ You were in a nation before, right? So technically you should already be penalized? _________________
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Ujitsuna
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: |
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We were all in a nation before, so I don't see how that applies. I didn't even post in mine when I joined. |
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Angelus
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Then your loyalty should be in the negative, mister! :P _________________
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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^ You were in a nation before, right? So technically you should already be penalized? |
This feature was only established hours ago. _________________
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Milan Fiori
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Eh. That also discourages people becoming Mercs. Which, really isn't all together fair either. As Mercs are an integral part of the game. So not penalizing someone for going Merc once, but you might want to have a requirement for Mercs returning to a nation. Like they have to be a Merc for at least 3 phases before they're able to go to a nation without penalty. And only the first time for that too. _________________ Be awed by our prowess!
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Sage
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:33 am Post subject: |
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It is not retroactive so he would obviously not be penalized.
And let's try not to clog up this topic with useless banter. It gets very annoying when looking for a question and/or answer when you have to wade through this crap. _________________
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Yvl
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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It really shouldnt apply to mercenaries. They are only loyal to themselves, in theory, so it isnt really a sign of disloyalty to join another nation. The way I see it anyway is that someone who leaves their nation numerous times would not be as trusted by their soldiers (like Lu Bu from ROTK), and this is represented by the fact that KAR will invariably effect LDR.
Leaving to become a mercenary, though, is just as much a sign of disloyalty as anything else. _________________
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