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There was a language filter. It was removed / relaxed for various reasons.
As for 'saying things straight up', Admins and Moderators do, with that particular member via PM as there is no need to have an open broadcast for everyone to see, it can be disruptive to that thread or forum and this site. Offensive material is edited / removed and that member is warned via PM, nothing retarded about it.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| ultimately, if there's a problem, just say so, straight up, so there is no confusion as to what that person did wrong, and why they shouldn't do it again. keeping any kind of problem hush hush and deleting posts and keeping it to PMs is retarded. |
In the same light, why keep posts that offended a person or a group of people? It's probably better for mods and admins to delete or edit posts, so the offensive post doesn't make more people upset.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:26 am Post subject: |
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because everybody will be offended by different things and there is no standard that way. with a clear example available moderators can say "this is not acceptable" and then people will learn the behavioral boundaries instead of just assuming that we're all as socially reserved as each other and that we should know better than to act as we would somewhere else.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:05 am Post subject: |
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It's pretty east to define what will offend most people, or what most people will consider "offensive". There's no point in humiliating a certain person publically in saying what needs to be done from the moderators or admins. Thus, the private messages come into play.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:25 am Post subject: |
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The mods are indeed quick to act on this site, so unless you've got contacts (ie are on IRC) then there is no way to know just what happened. However, this is more helpful than harmful - if the comments were indeed offensive, then the more people that saw it, the more people that would get pissed off and start hating the member that posted it.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| Different moderators moderate with different styles; some will do the public thing (although I discourage it), while others are good with sending out PMs. Others gently guide astray topics to its proper course, and others just silently delete stuff. The mix of these various moderation principles make this community well maintained and free of perfidious junk. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| because everybody will be offended by different things and there is no standard that way. |
Wouldn't it just be easiest to then NOT post what could potentially be offensive? Just because there's different viewpoints as to what is and isn't offensive doesn't mean you can post it because you don't find it offensive. I'm a very opinionated person, and most of the mods here know that. However I enjoy my stay here at Suikox so I try to hold my tongue and reserve what I say as to not ruffle feathers. I have been warned both privately and publicly in the past about various things that I did against the rules or were pushing the rules and I adjusted.
Its a maturity issue here also. We here at Suikox like to have mature discussions that don't degrade to offensive comments. Of course some people are more easily offended given their region, background and personal pasts and views, but in general, if you are going to say something that is harmful, you probably shouldn't say it at all. An example would be abortion. Its one thing to discuss in a rational manner the pros and cons and the politics of it, and its another to jump in and call someone a "baby killer". The latter is definitely going to offend someone. There's a way to express your opinions on matters without offending someone in most topics. Not everyone will agree with you, nor should you have to agree with everyone. Just don't let it get personal. If you start to take things personal, walk away. Getting into a huge fight isn;t worth all the hassle.
One of the major reasons I like Suikox is because it doesn't degrade to barbaric "You are an idiot"-"No, you're an idiot" arguments like over at other sites I used to frequent. I feel the rules we have in place here are a good thing, not a harmful thing that needs to be tested.
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| with a clear example available moderators can say "this is not acceptable" and then people will learn the behavioral boundaries |
Until that thread drowns and weeks later someone does it again. Its best to delete them and get them out of the way and then direct the offender to the rule they breached via PM.
Also, if you read the rules, they are pretty clear on what you can and can not do. We shouldn't need in thread exampling.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Of course, if people did post these things to begin with, we wouldn't have to worry about it, would we? THere are things that people say without thinking, but it worries me that people here also have, from time to time, said things with malice aforethought, and that does nothing but harm.\
The mods seem to be doing a decent job though, on the most part!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Is there something in the air or water? |
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For the last week or so, moderators and myself have noticed increased incidents of people acting stupid. These include stuff like personal attacks, negative comments made about an entire gender, race, nationality, etc, and other tripe. Rules forbid these things.
It's always strange how these happen in spurts from individuals who have no connection with each other. I'm sure there's some sort of cause, like radioactive isotopes in the water or some mysterious electromagnetic wave from an extraterrestrial source. Regardless, it's annoying and disruptive for the community.
So, stop.
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Do you (or anyone from the site for that matter) send Pm's warning of this conduct or something? Or did you post here to avoid doing that?
I know you said different mods do different stuff but since this is a "global" warning.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Public warnings tend to be posted only after mods have dealt with several cases of the same thing in a short span of time (usually via PM). To avoid even more cases, a public warning is posted.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Most of the people who have been showing up on the Modar, have been given at least one warning so far through PM. So if you're sitting here wondering if this applies too you, but you haven't been spoken too about it, then more likely than not, you just haven't crossed the line yet.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| RedCydranth wrote: |
| Wouldn't it just be easiest to then NOT post what could potentially be offensive? |
Yes, that would be the most desirable course of action though there are likely those who post controversial or offensive material to make an impact or get noticed. Unfortunately, with any site you're going to get your fair share of stupid people, but whether you get the type which are benign and willing to learn from their mistakes or the type which believe their way is the only way is hit or miss.
Naturally, it's easy to see how to deal with each case. The former just needs to be shown what the problem was and, most likely, it won't be intentionally repeated. With the latter, well, to paraphrase JMS on his explanation of 'spoo': Just ban 'em. |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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In the same light, why keep posts that offended a person or a group of people? It's probably better for mods and admins to delete or edit posts, so the offensive post doesn't make more people upset. |
I have been on the internet reading thigns to learn anything and everything is offensive to someone.
saying hypnosis is a valid thing of science, saying putting a frog in a blender and letting it sit for a 100 years will make a dog, making fun of "prussian blue", saying we should feed war orphans. It all will but someone's undies in a bunch.
a flame war can even start with a simple "i like chicken".
Oh and on getting butthurt, I have someone on a forum in a huff because
1) she felt like she shouldn't mention the psycopath in a fictional show being made more psychopathic in fanfiction I found it odd because "hes not real so say is name"
2) shes offended that I don't understand why so many people are hot for fictional nutters when if they ran into a real sociopath the might not enjoy it.
Oh my god, the devil kuwaizair master of pain and suffering did it again!
anyone offended that I laugh at your love afair for lets say" Luca Blight and yet its ironic you have issues with me?
see folks, even without racial slurs, calling someone shoe god a worthless cupcake or that a large precentage of interent users on any given forum aren't as bright as the whitest text is. *snorts*
trust me I know offence, I can get banned from a community who might specialize in hate.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:55 am Post subject: |
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which is what i'm talking about, if there isn't some kind of guideline as to what our opinions are supposed to be while we post here how are we going to stop offending everyone?! it's anarchy!
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