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Kikito
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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To adress your question, Red, you must ask yourseld if you'll ever see someone who has enough soldiers to his name t actually have 10 times more soldiers than those two you mentioned. As it stands, Andard can hold 4600 soldiers and Jinx can use 5000. For an enemy to wipe any of them out(given that they're maxed out) the enemy would need to have 46000 and 50000 to defeat your guys respectively. I don't know of any unit in the game who can field those kinds of numbers, so units such as these are safe from the Death Rule unless you send them with a very small amount of soldiers.
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RedCydranth
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I don't know many nations who stack their weaker units with their maximum soldiers. Generally they are used on explorations or naval scavenging of dots. And only have 1000-1500 soldiers. Now there IS a chance of finding an accidental sea monster or crazy man-eating hydra that has 150+ Leadership and can kill them.
Now I don't expect to run into these monsters, but who does (unless they're bound for that dreaded Murky Sea!)? I guess you are right overall, Kikito. Don't send weaker units with meager amounts of soldiers is the answer. Thanks. _________________ I'm sorry and I apologize are the same thing.
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kuwaizair
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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could dead ones be turned into zombies?
what about those sacrafical jizo things? will we intrduce those? _________________ few runes short of a set of 27
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Kikito
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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could dead ones be turned into zombies?
what about those sacrafical jizo things? will we intrduce those?
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Sacrificial Jizos(or Buddahs, whatever game you're playing) have already been introduced. They just don't revive Deceased Regiments. What it does is let a nation reuse one of its defeated regiments while healing it a certain amount of its soldiers. |
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Ujitsuna
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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There are no zombie regiments. |
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Sun's Vicegerent
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Oooh, this sounds painful. Very actually. I just hope I don't end up on the chopping board :| _________________
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Fudozukushi
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm, how do sabotage and Unit Specials like Ninja ambushes play into this?
If a Regiment has say 5000 soldiers sent in against 10,000. Then Sabotage and Special happen and reduce them below 1000 are they affected by the death rule? _________________ Pizza Hut supports the rebellion!
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Nimble Jack
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Is the troop count taken at the start of battle, or after both sides have taken casualties? _________________ "Not everything is possible, but there are an infinite number of possibilities." |
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: |
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At the start obviously. Otherwise, a wiped out regiment will have enemy troop count divided by infinity as their leftovers, meaning a heck of a lot more people will be dying everywhere. |
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Nimble Jack
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: |
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I thought that being wiped out put you in the 50% chance to live category. Meaning you wouldn't figure the 1/10th proportion if the regiment was destroyed.
Vextor said:
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There is a 50% chance you can die when your regiment is wiped out when your regiment's troop count is less than 1/10th of the enemy regiment's troop count. |
Are there two separate clauses here? _________________ "Not everything is possible, but there are an infinite number of possibilities." |
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Aurelien
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:56 am Post subject: |
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As far as I understand the rule, it is meant to be like this:
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There is a 50% chance you can die when your regiment is wiped out AND when your regiment's troop count is less than 1/10th of the enemy regiment's troop count. |
So if you're only wiped out but have more than 1/10 of the enemy's soldier count, you can't be killed.
And if you have less than 1/10 of the enemy's soldier count, you can't be killed either if you are not wiped out.
So you can only die if you both:
1. Have less than 1/10 of enemy soldier count, AND
2. Be wiped out by the enemy.
That's how I understand the rule. _________________
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Elc
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Well, if the regiment is wiped out, it will obviously have less than 1/10 of the enemy soldier count, since your regiment would have zero soldiers left, hence "wiped out." _________________
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Aurelien
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Well, if the regiment is wiped out, it will obviously have less than 1/10 of the enemy soldier count, since your regiment would have zero soldiers left, hence "wiped out." |
Err.. I think you misunderstood the 1/10 part. The 1/10 part counts toward the beginning of the battle, and not at the end.
Example: A vs B
Round 1: Member A (X Regiment) 5000 - 5000 = 0
Round 1: Member B (Y Regiment ) 10000 - 3000 = 7000
Obviously A is "wiped out", but A's starting soldier count is more than 1/10 of member B because 5000 is 50% of 10000. Hence, A doesn't have 50% chance to be killed and A is not going to die on that battle. _________________
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:43 am Post subject: |
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@Gregory: Aurelien (just like Vextor) obviously meant
So you can only die if you both:
1. have less than 1/10 of the enemy soldier count at the beginning of the encounter
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2. are wiped out by the enemy
I don't understand the confusion. And @Red: Just give each regiment you employ at least 2500 soldiers and they will be safe from death. If you don't have enough soldiers for all your activities, then forfeit. Since reason dictates to follow these guidelines, the new death rule will more or less only do one thing: Prevent unrealistic stall-tactics with unreasonably small units.
EDIT: Aurelien was faster. |
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Fu Su Lu
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Hayashi Ujitsuna wrote: |
There are no zombie regiments. |
...yet! :P _________________ The drunkest cavalry unit in the world.
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