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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Reused Characters (spoilers) Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

How many characters have been reused through out the series not counting the games not released in america? its really interests me since there are alot of references to Morgan from S1 in S5 during the gladiator competition.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

If you check suikosource.com's character list, it has a chart for each character indicating which installments of the series they have appeared in.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

jean has been in every single game.
viki been in all except for tactics.
viktor and flik in I and II.
valeria and kasumi in I and II
tir and germio in I and II
futch in I, II and III
humphrey in I and II
leon silverberg in I and II
apple in I, II and III
luc in I, II and III
yuber in I, II and III
lenkaat in all except for tactics.
ted in V and I.
clive in I and II
georg prime in V and II
hix and tengaar in I and II
killey in V and II
lorelai in V, I and II
lucia in II and III
neclord in I and II
pesmerga in I and II
tai ho and yam koo in I and II
tuta in II and III
most people from IV were in tactics.


that should about sum it up.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Miss Lilly Pendragon was present in Suikoden II and III, although she played a non-SOD role in S2.

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ted in V and I.


Ted was in IV and I.

Stallion in I and II.
Sasarai in II and III.
Maximillian in I and II.

That's all I can think of that Buff forgot.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Varkas, Alex, Grenseal, Liukan, Tesla and Eileen also appear in both SI and SII, though their roles are very minor. To see some of these in SII you may need to load saved data from SI.

Retso appears in both SII and SV. Shun Min appears in both too, but is only mentioned a couple of times in SII.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Pahn and Cleo also appear in S I and SII.

Sheena in I and II
Vincent de Boule in I and II
Meg in I and II
Templeton in I and II
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Heh, add Marie and Sarah to that list too.

These are all the people that appeared in both SIV and Tactics:

Adrienne
Akaghi
Ameria
Axel
Brandeau
Carrie
Cedric
Champ
Charlemagne
Chiepoo
Dario
Ema
Eugene
Flare
Frederica
Gary
Gretchen
Hervey
Jeane
Jeremy
Jewel
Karl
Katarina
Kate
Keneth
Kika
Lazlo
Lino
Maxine
Millay
Mitsuba
Mizuki
Nalkul
Nalleo
Noah
Pablo
Paula
Peck
Rachel
Reinbach II
Reinbach III
Reinhold
Renee
Rita
Selma
Setsu (is only seen in Tactics when you're in the Obel throne room)
Sigurd
Snowe
Tal
Trishtan
Wendel
Yu

Tactics also has some references to Troy, Warlock, Kevin, Pam, Tanya, and Cray while SIV has a mention of Edgar.

Flare and Brandeau appear as puppets in SV and Lino is mentioned as well. That's all SIV related for now.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I love the S1 cast the most i just wish they had morgan in it. the story seems to state they shiped him off only a few years before the game began.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

ardPSiKo wrote:
Varkas, Alex, Grenseal, Liukan, Tesla and Eileen also appear in both SI and SII, though their roles are very minor. To see some of these in SII you may need to load saved data from SI.


When you say "Alex," you mean "Alen."

Alex is the treasure-hunter / innkeeper dude from Suikoden 2.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I re-played Suikoden 1 recently, and I noticed that when Hero McDohl first meets Morgan in the Qlon Temple, Morgan tells him that he's been blind since birth. This would indicate that the gladiator referenced in Suikoden 5, who's eyes were gouged out because he had been unbeatable, couldn't have been Morgan.

Unless, of course, Morgan was lying to McDohl at the Qlon Temple.

Konami probably just got sloppy with their facts though, and forgot what Morgan said in Suikoden 1.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

yes morgan was lying about that, as the morgan in I is the same they make refrence to in V.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Wolf Stew wrote:
Unless, of course, Morgan was lying to McDohl at the Qlon Temple.

Konami probably just got sloppy with their facts though, and forgot what Morgan said in Suikoden 1.

Morgan indeed lied, and Konami didn't get sloppy about that. Morgan purposely lied to McDohl to hide the fact that he was a gladiator from Falena. To say that he was blinded from birth would be a good way to fool McDohl.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Aurelien wrote:
Wolf Stew wrote:
Unless, of course, Morgan was lying to McDohl at the Qlon Temple.

Konami probably just got sloppy with their facts though, and forgot what Morgan said in Suikoden 1.

Morgan indeed lied, and Konami didn't get sloppy about that. Morgan purposely lied to McDohl to hide the fact that he was a gladiator from Falena. To say that he was blinded from birth would be a good way to fool McDohl.


Although we can't really find a motive for him to do that. :(
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Hayashi Ujitsuna wrote:
Aurelien wrote:
Wolf Stew wrote:
Unless, of course, Morgan was lying to McDohl at the Qlon Temple.

Konami probably just got sloppy with their facts though, and forgot what Morgan said in Suikoden 1.

Morgan indeed lied, and Konami didn't get sloppy about that. Morgan purposely lied to McDohl to hide the fact that he was a gladiator from Falena. To say that he was blinded from birth would be a good way to fool McDohl.


Although we can't really find a motive for him to do that. :(

My memory about Suikoden V's reference was a bit hazy (forgive me, it has been a long time since I played it and I hate Shoon), but if I'm not mistaken, it was said that the blind gladiator (Morgan) escaped Queendom of Falena. So for me, the lie was made so that everyone would think that he died on the sea rather than surviving and lived in Scarlet Moon Empire.

I could be wrong, of course.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I seem to remember something along those lines too. Morgan escaped, and more than likely lied, so people wouldn't know he's a fugitive from the Queendom.
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