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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Crazy feminist wishes she had an abortion because her son wa Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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I have three sons, ages 16, 15, and 12. I was also in an abusive marriage for ten years in which my 15 year old was a frequent target of my x husband. These boys had a rough time of it, as did we all.

After I left my husband my children acted out for a short time, we all spoke of feeling relief and feeling safe yet there were still some rough spots as I got the hang of trying to do it alone.

Several years ago my accountability program found that the computer had been accessing pornography. Turns out it was my middle son. To date he has been 'caught' accessing pornography many times since then. He was 13 I think when this started.

I banned him from the computer, but after a few months I would allow him to be on it for short periods of time. Each and every single time my son would access pornography within days (and sometimes hours) of being allowed back online. He was aware that he would be caught because the computers are monitored but he chose to do it anyway.

Most recently my youngest son allowed my middle son to play with his PSP. Brandon (the middle child) used it to immediately access pornography online. The child is now banned from computers, video games and so forth. I've talked until I'm blue in the face, I've grown angry and yelled, I've cried when I was alone and when I was in front of him. I've had him read Dworkin, my site, and other places (namely OAG's site) and I still can't unseat this problem. He can recite feminist literature all day long, he can understand the tenets, the ideas behind it, how it links together but he will not allow this knowledge to stand in the way of his porn use.

I don't think I'm looking for advice (I've tried everything I could think of so far) but more a place to simply be sad. I can clearly see why he's looking at pornography, I've figured all that out readily enough, but I can't seem to make it stop.

I know, that as soon as my child leaves my home and moves into his own place that he will be looking at porn immediately. I know that I am raising a problem for women. I know that this child will one day grow and will fully absorb the messages that porn sends to men. I know that my child masturbates to degradation of my people (when I use that phrase I mean womyn) and that with every orgasm he will further solidify his own hatred of and superiority over, women.

I know that there will likely come a day where my son coerces a young woman into sex (rape) and there isn't a damned thing I can do about it. I look into the eyes of my son and they still sparkle like they did when he was a baby, but he's not a baby anymore, he's growing into a man and that man will have trained himself to degrade women before he leaves my home.

As a radical feminist who puts women first I cannot begin to determine what I should do with regards to this issue. My heart breaks because there is nothing I can do to protect the womyn he will come into contact with.

I have three boys. One of them is lost to me and as a mother and a radical womyn this breaks my heart in a way I can scarcely express. I don't know if it says something terrible about me, but you know what haunts me late at night? More than anything else? I know, in my heart of hearts that, knowing what I know now, if I had it to do over again I would have had that abortion.

I also find myself blaming myself over and over again, even though that radical womyn inside of me stands up and yells that I'm placing blame in the wrong place. I'm not sure what I intended to say with this message. I began writing it this morning and put it away again and finally decided to finish it this evening. I think that maybe I just wanted to share, I keep trying with Brandon and I keep failing. He simply doesn't care. When he wants to jerk off, everything goes right out the window.


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I am having similar issues with the male person I brought into this world.


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This post deleted; poster with the screen name of "Gwaihir" is banned. He was male and runs a pornographic website.

So, back to more careful vetting.

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http://www.womensspace.org/Feminist_Motherhood/182.html


These bitches are crazy. This was so insane, I'm not even sure if it's a satire, but it's hilarious.

I'm pretty sure that her son does that in spite of her just because he finds her batshit insanity and cognitive dissonance to be hilarious. If that's the case, I commend his efforts.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Wow, how ridiculos. Yeah, all boys who watch porn grow up to rape women>>. She subtely said it, with her "sex(rape)" comment. It has NOTHING to do with treating women badly. I enjoy porn, and I have NEVER raised my hand to a woman, nor would I. If I did, I'd hope someone would kick my ass. I too had an abusive dad like those kids, and that's what I learned from it. Femminists piss me off. Anyone who is so "pro themselves" that it deludes their senses is pathetic. I'm not saying all feminists are extreme, and that woman don't know what their talking about. But women like her....yes. I hope that kid emancipates himself, and continues on with his HEALTHY and normal habit.


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As a radical feminist who puts women first


Eff you. People like you help make this world shitty. Why don't we put people first instead of BS like this. Now, I don't care if every female on this site bitches me out; this lady is nuts. I'm not putting down women...I'm just preffering everyone be on the same level. Men, women, whites, blacks, hispanics, whatever. People think "Oh, I'm opressed. I need to compensate by being superior and wanting more, instead of equality"
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Reading this...I can say this is ridiculous. I agree Ezekiel these sort of people do usually do more wrong than right. They always jump to conclusions and the assume so much, I know of women who cannot stand these pro-women types.

I too believe everyone should be on the same level too, women are no better than men and viceversa. Same with races, it just gets irritating, just cos the kid looks at porn does not mean he will look at women as lesser beings, maybe they are just curious. But that can be too much for some of these pro-feminists to take in obviously.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

her son sounds like he has an addiction of is using porn in subsitute for some other thing. this woman is crazy.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Maybe she is so removed from her sons because she is this female supremacist who thinks all men are worthless swine, when only most of us are. :P
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

There's so much hopelessly screwed up with these people it's hard to know where to begin.
First of all I have to state that I am morally very conservative and am 100% anti-pornography. I feel that it is EXTREMELY degrading to women and to men as well, and I think it really does damage people. I have known families to be torn apart by it and people very close to me have had their expectations severely skewed as a result of pornography.
However, going the opposite direction into all the extreme feminism is just as dangerous and just as destructive. (The term "Womyn" makes me want to slug her in the mouth)

I can't blame her for being angry if she was abused. If she feels like the acts committed by her husband in the course of conceiving their children were rape, I cannot feel anything but sorrow for her and her whole family. However, any mother who says that she would rather have had an abortion than have her child when all is said and done needs to be psychologically examined, because that kind of thinking has led to all sorts of gruesome crimes in the past.

Maybe if she spent more time being with her son as a human being rather than a feminist trying to impress upon him the "tenants" of female superiority (sounds like a religion. Scary.) he might be more willing to stay away from the stuff.
Not that I am excusing his behavior, but the backlash against this sort of femme-nazi thing is to be expected, and it follows that it would be in the form of something that takes this towering figure of "womyn" that has been put over him from day one as a figure of power and superiority and makes it smaller--weaker and subservient to the traditionally superior masculine sexuality.

I feel bad for all of them, is what it comes down to, I guess.


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Maybe she is so removed from her sons because she is this female supremacist who thinks all men are worthless swine, when only most of us are.

*Chortle* If you'd asked me two years ago this month just after I'd broken off my marriage engagement, I might have argued the "all" point! ;)[/quote]
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I sense the starting of another serial killer =P
An Ed Gein and Ted Bundy combo.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

her people? she considers women (oh, excuse me, womyn) a separate people? not to mention that she spells women as "Womyn". its stupid that she hates men so much that she has to misspell the word because it has "men" in it. then there's the whole abortion thing....

i guess men are lucky that that kind of mindset is only on the fringe of society
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well said Hiccup. When people feel opressed, it doesn't seem that they are angry about opression. Because most of those people become pro-something. "I'm a woman, I feel opressed, so now I want to be on top, opress others, and be a hypocrite." People like her don't care about problems, unless it's directed towards "her kind." I don't care if you're pro-white or pro-saber-tooth tiger. That mind set makes you no better than anyone, and will get you no where in the long run. Don't aim for revenge, aim for equality. Hiccup, I respect that you are against pornography. I know you are religious, and have many beliefs in values. I'd like to ask you a few questions maybe?


EDIT: Questions asked, no reason to leave them up to have anyone else bug you about it^^
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

kuwaizair wrote:
her son sounds like he has an addiction of is using porn in subsitute for some other thing. this woman is crazy.


It sounds to me he does it to piss her off on purpose.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

A lot of these women come from backgrounds where they know (or knew) men who were very abusive, and they have every right to be angry at them, why aren't we all? However to blame all men for the behaviour of a minority is not the way to go, neither is passing on this hatred to your children. It must be especially confusing being the son of someone like that.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

HarmonianHiccup wrote:
There's so much hopelessly screwed up with these people it's hard to know where to begin.
First of all I have to state that I am morally very conservative and am 100% anti-pornography. I feel that it is EXTREMELY degrading to women and to men as well, and I think it really does damage people. I have known families to be torn apart by it and people very close to me have had their expectations severely skewed as a result of pornography.


That goes for every thing though, doesn't it? Internet tears families apart. Video games also. It's all about moderation. Just because some people go crazy and depend on it when most of us men watch rarely, doesn't me all of us will.

I see nothing wrong with pornography, especially when you consider the state of American sex education. It's horrible. Why do you think we go towards watching porn when we're young? It's because we're curious.

The only reason people have skewed views due to pornography is because American society doesn't do its job to really tell the truth about sexuality, but with a little digging, and lowering one's expectations prior to a sexual encounter, porn doesn't skew ones thoughts of sex at all.

We could go around all day with this debate -- men think it's their job to satisfy the women with their penis because it's what they see on porn and because society tells them that the man should know what he's doing and shouldn't have to ask a woman if he's doing it right. They also say that all women want and need a big 12 inch peter in their cooter.

On the flip side, society act as if all women enjoy being penetrated. Sexual education never goes into detail that every woman is different and has her own kick. This makes men think that the only way they can satisfy their partners is by playin' a little game of "in out, in out". When that is unfortunately not the case. If more men were taught how to satisfy their partners without hurting them, they'd be obliged to do so.

If people were sexually aware and knowledgeable in the first place, porn addiction and "degradation" wouldn't be such a problem to begin with. But alas, exploring sexuality is a bad thing. The same people who are against porn are the same folks against teaching our young about the truths of sex -- which creates unrealistic expectations -- to begin with.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

As a woman, who agrees with feminism of the past, I think this women is in the wrong!!
Although, I would be concerned if my young child was watching it!! But it is understandable, they're just curious, I mean who isn't when they're going through puberty??
These women choose to go into porn, I'd feel different if he was looking at child-porn!!
Anyway, I've seen porn in my life, a lot of it, I was interested too at that age!! That's it, I'm going to start mistreating women, it has corrupted my soul!! There is no hope for me in this world!!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

If you have a son and he's a teenager, you should be concerned if he doesn't watch porn, if you ask me.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Not necessarily, Himuro. Most of my guy friends don't, neither does my brother. I know those guy friends well enough to know that they don't, and well, I can guarantee my brother doesn't. And yes, they're all straight. Anyways, I agree with the general consensus, this woman is crazy. Uber-feminists have always pissed me off. Yes, I think porn is wrong and I've never seen any, but still. I know of people who do and they're still good people. One kid I know who watches it is actually pretty chivalrous.
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