Lazlo's Survival

Onimaru · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject:

Seeing as how there is no offical record of how or why Lazlo was spared, I think that option three is the most likely. We know that runes are sentiant, and operate on a sort of timetale, every action revolving around the true runes has some purpose in the great scheme of things. So it can be assumed that the rune knew the role Lazlo would play in helping the rune accomplish it's ultimate goal (I never finished the game, so I dont know exactly what that would be - but If i'm not mistaken the true runes all have some sort of ultimate goal of some sort, do they not?)

I dont know how his mothers pregnancy while bearing a true rune can affect his affinity towards the rune, I'd always assumed it had to do with his SOD. I dont know.
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Sophita · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject:

Ujitsuna · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject:

If the Rune of Punishment takes memories and not the soul of the bearer, then I suppose from one view it could be argued that the rune itself was acting on these memories and the Queen (herself) had nothing to do with it. I agree that the green shield and the Queen herself make for the most simple and likely theory though.

Ryusei · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:11 am Post subject:

I always assumed that the green shield was just something that Konami threw in just to save Lazlo's butt from the Rune of Punishment. To me, it looks really out of place, spouting out of nowhere for some reason. I guess that the Queen of Obel or Lazlo's mom had something to do about it since the strange green shield appeared to protect her as well. But I'm still leaning towards my first assumption though. That green barrier really looks out of place.

Luceit · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:13 am Post subject:

If the green barrier appeared to protect her when she was attacked, I think the most likely explanation then would be because the Rune had a purpose for the both of them, since if we were assuming that Lazlo's mother had somehow protected him when he was attacked by Brandeau, that wouldn't explain why she too was protected, right?

The funny thing is that I haven't heard of any other Rune doing this before, but maybe that's just because the Rune of Punishment had its eyes set on the both of them. In that case, we'll have to start thinking about exactly how sentient this rune truly is.

As for the natural affinity thing, I don't think we've a way to prove that. Certainly, it seems like more than just coincidence that the Rune chose the Queen of Obel and then Lazlo himself, but it's equally possible that the Rune saw something interesting within the both of them.
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Eden · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:17 am Post subject:

Riou's rune protected him, its bearer, but I guess you are right that we don't know about another case in which a rune protects someone it will belong to somewhen in the future...
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Ryusei · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:23 am Post subject:

Well, the only thing we truly know is that the Rune of Punishment acts like a parasite which sucks the life out of its bearer. But when you say that the rune protects Lazlo and the Queen of Obel because it saw something interesting within them, doesn't that contradict what the rune is supposed to do? I mean, by protecting them, the rune somehow prolongs the life of its bearer rather than suck it out, which is what it is supposed to do.

It's rather strange. But if that was the case, then I can assume that the Rune of Punishment also has the ability to see the future, much like Luc's True Wind Rune. I guess that the Rune wanted to change into its atonement phase, and probably saw in the future that Lazlo would be able to do that which is why it protected him. I could be wrong though.

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Luceit · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:06 am Post subject:

Ryusei · Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:15 am Post subject:

Luceit · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:57 am Post subject:

Onimaru · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:58 am Post subject:

Well if the Rune of Punishment, and all true runes really, are sentient and can somehow divine the future (they can destroy fleets, teleport, summon earthquakes, 'etc I dont see why farseeing is outside of the realm of possiblities) then it can be assumed that the runes have a "greater purpose" of sorts.

The raise of a Tenkai and the SODs isn't an everyday occurance, and the runes have passed from person to person in the past without the need for a game devoted to them. So lets assume for a moment that the creators of suikoden have a "plan" and that the games each focus on an important moment in history, and that the actions of those in the game play a part of something bigger, they're "setting the stage" so to say, for some grand event. With any luck each game represents a major change in the world of suikoden. Well then, if this is the case then those moments depeicted in the games are pivotal, and the world is moving forward towards this "greater goal" whatever that may be (the apocolypse, end of runes, worldwide salvation..whatever).

So under this assumption that the world is actually going somewhere, and that the games arn't just made to show us some stuff that overall isn't very important. It's not hard to assume that the true runes are part of this "greater goal", so why wouldn't the rune of punishment single out Lazlo when it sees the destiny he has to fufill? Why wouldn't it want to attach itself to someone of such historic importance, and if it ends up choosing lazo, and eventually moving into it's attonment phase, why isn't it possible that it knew what the end result would be and made that decision?
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Ryusei · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:31 am Post subject:

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