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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:56 am    Post subject: Warhammer 40k Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I just got back into it a month or so ago, though I had started about 10 years ago. How many people here play the game, and what army do you play as?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

heh I wonder what this topic was inspired by >_>


I have been playing warhammer ever since I was probrobly 15 years old (20 now btw)

For warhammer 40k I play as the space wolves (a chapter of the space marines for those who dont know)

They are my favorite because they are werewolves basically and their offense ability is really great

For Warhammer I have a High Elf Army although I havent really put much money into it and the army size I have at the moment is just pitiful. But I like the high elves they just have a very unique and varied army in my opinion
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I've never been too fond of the Space Wolves. The werewolf thing just doesnt do it for me.

My army is currently Dark Eldar. I'm still in the process of salvaging whatever I can find from when I left off. I've only got a Wych squad, an HQ, and one or two Warrior Squads. I think the raider is still functional, but there's no way in hell I'm giving it a test drive, my soldiers can figure that out for themselves when they go into battle.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I've been playing it off and on since 1989 when the first Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40K figures were just coming out. When my interest in playing the tabletop wargaming of the series went down I still followed the series through all the Army books and novels based on the franchise.

The armies I'v collected and played with pretty much been all of them. I have at least 500 points of each army in both the Fantasy and 40K games to field and play a quick game with. The armies I have more points in are Empire with a heavy lean towards the Middenheimers for fantasy. I have around 200+ figures of different Empire units to field an Imperial Army in the 7500 point range. The second largest army I could field for Fantasy would be the Ogre Kingdom army with 85 figures which would be enough for a 2000-3000 point Ogre Kingdom force.

Lately, I've been collecting more 40K models and adding them to my collection. They just have some nice new ones for the Space Marine forces especially since most of the new ones are of my favorite Space Marine Chapter: Dark Angels. I'm still waiting on my friend to start up painting the bigger new figures. The new figure for the Master of the Ravenwing is one I hope he does a great job on.



My Dark Angel Chapter army is around the 8000-point range. It could be more actually but with the newer figures coming out I'm going to be retiring some of the older ones. I could also add a nice small battleforce of 1000-1500 points of either Imperial Guard or Grey Knights Chapter marines to my Dark Angels.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I love Warcraft 40k video games but never got into the game itself. Although Ive always been curious but I hear its really expensive?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

You would be correct about it being really expensive and also time consuming, since you have to put togethor and paint the figurines yourself.

On a side note

I have always somewhat wanted a Tau army. I like the models that the army uses for some odd reason. However, I do not like the background story of the Tau and I do not like how they operate in battle and their main battle strategy. It is just not my style. Also, I work at a collectible items store which sells a lot of warhammer items and constumers have complained that the stands and the Tau pieces do not match. After the complaints I checked some of the Tau pieces we had and he was correct you had to alter the stand or the piece so they would fit togethor which is quite difficult if you dont know what you are doing. I dont know if this was just this batch of Tau pieces we got or many Tau pieces are like that.

If anyone can confirm this for me I would gladly like to know if anyone has heard any complaints similar to this. I did call the company about this issue and they stated that no complaints of this kind have been reported to them and they would look into it, but of course they could be lying since a complaint like this and an issue like this if it occured a lot would hurt their reputation quite a bit.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I have a small collection of Tau figures and some of the pieces do need some slight alterations using the blade, but nothing that couldn't be fixed quickly. Usually I just shave off the areas of the pieces where they cut it off from the master mold. But I've never come across a Tau figure where the figure itself came with the wrong stand. Again if and when I can't easily drop in the figure into the stand it's usually due to the figure tab having some excess from the molding process. Nothing an X-Acto knife couldn't fix.

As for the Tau as an army, it's really the Wood Elf of the 40k world. Anyone who decides they want to field a Tau army without any Kroot auxiliaries to form its close-combat core is asking to be rolled over by Orks, Space Marines and Chaos players. Just fielding Tau units means a player is hoping all his shooting will hit home (for the most part with Tau units they do but the dice Gods can be fickle at times) and kill enough of the opponent to make close-combat not the scary proposition that it is for a Tau. Like the Warhammer Fantasy Wood Elf army, a Tau player needs to balance all that shooting with at least a minimum two strong units of Kroot with a couple of Krootux to act as fast-moving close-combat shock troops.

These Kroot units are just good enough in close-combat to tie up a section of the battlefield which means more of the Tau firepower can be concentrated on the rest of the field. I also think people tend to go for the big Crisis Battlesuits in big numbers and forget to field enough Fire Warriors. The Fire Warriors rail carbines and rifles in large numbers can make even a veteran Space Marine, Ork and Chaos player hesistate with their charges into close-combat. Now, add in a 2-3 of the new Tau sniper's with their targetting and gun drones and the Tau can stand up to most any other army.

The Tau really are for advanced players. I think they're even harder to use than the Eldar since the Tau really only has one dedicated close-combat unit in the Kroot while the Eldar has a couple in the Howling Banshees and Striking Scorpions. The only thing I don't like about the Tau has to be that their range weapons are just way overpowered. If a Tau player suddenly has a hot-streak in their dice rolls the opposing player may never get past the first or second round without losing 2/3 of his army. Even the Necrons don't field that kind of ranged firepower on the field.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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My Dark Angel Chapter army is around the 8000-point range. It could be more actually but with the newer figures coming out I'm going to be retiring some of the older ones. I could also add a nice small battleforce of 1000-1500 points of either Imperial Guard or Grey Knights Chapter marines to my Dark Angels.

You're fucking insane.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well, I have been collecting the figures since the early 90's when the first Dark Angel-only figures came out. I'd say it's even more than 8000-point but I've seen retired and cannibalized those older figures for their bitz to convert the newer ones.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Only played a few games, but I collected a lot back around 2000 and painted a few. I worked at the original Wizards of the Coast retail store in Seattle, and we had the full GW line for quite a while. I eventually ran the tournaments and events that we had for it, so I knew quite a bit about the rules, though I think I only played 40k three times and Fantasy Battles like once.

Armies I have are a ton of Eldar for 40k, High Elves for Fantasy Battles, and I still have some Eldar Harlequins.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

You should check out the new Eldar figures they just released the past 12 months, Equus. They also came out with new redesigned Eldar Harlequins that come with more conversion bitz so you you can have them put together with different poses.

Eldar also has a new command HQ character models with their Autarch commanders. These are some very nice figures that I say even look better than some of the Phoenix Lord (Karandras and Fuegan always looked too bulky and boring to me) figures. Here's a couple of the basic looks for the Autarchs.

Prince Yriel of Iyanden Craftworld


Eldar Autarch w/ Reaper Missile Launcher, Swooping Hawk Wings and Power sword


New Eldar Harlequins figures (Harlequins w/ Troupe Master)


New Harlequin Death Jester w/ Shrieker Cannon


New Harlequin Shadowseer

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

you see Im actually more interested in the artistic aspect of it. Not as much the game. But it would still be fun. If it was'nt so expensive though Id get into it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I played years ago and I basically stopped because of the excessive price increases that came along, it got to the point where single character miniatures were selling for about £7 a piece, that's about $12-14 dollars depending on what the current exchange rate has got to. I couldn't afford that as a kid and I could barely afford it now!

I played Blood Angels, originally I picked the space marines because lets face it they're a good starter race for anyone with very strong basic units and they're pretty customisable to a purpose, the Horus Heresy is also a great story to get into. I would never use the entirely bland forces of the Ultramarines though, I couldn't and I preferred the colour scheme of the Blood Angels anyway. So the Blood Angels as a whole are a bit screwed up and have some deviant practices but that just added to their personality to me, I found them to be a lot of fun. I couldn't hazard a guess as to the point range the army was in, besides it's all changed these days with the new system of grouping things by types in your army selections and even the turn order system has changed up since my day. I had two predator annihilators, terminators, tactical squads, assault marines, Dante, scouts, devastator squad, death company marines, a chaplain. Probably tons of other stuff I'm forgetting but it was a reasonably sized army when all is said and done, I never really fought in the spirit of the chapter though really, I'm was a shooter and the blood angels are definitely made for getting up close and personal really when all is said and done, that's their thing in truth.

In the end before I gave up completely I got some eldar models just for the sheer fact they looked cool and Eldrad Ulthran survives as the only model that is visible in my room (the rest is hidden for fear of accusations of geekdom!) because I think it's the best painted model I ever managed to do, even then it's not fantastic, I abused the black undercoat a bit on Ulthwe models to make life easier.

Other than that I had lots of assorted things, I had the small makings of a chaos marine army, I think mine were Black Legion and I had Khorne Berserkers.

One of the spin off games I really liked was Battlefleet Gothic, not sure if anyone else gave that a go but it was pretty good. My Eldar fleet kicked most things out of the stars when I played with it, their capital ships were so damn nippy they could get in fire a salvo of torpedos and speed out of range, my nemesis was a Chaos Blackstone Fortress and their ridiculous power and range for me to deal with. I hated that thing, plus it was kinda ugly.

For Fantasy (which I and my friends actually played more extensively of the two), I had a rather large army of Dark Elves including a Dragon and a Pegasus, plenty of Cold Ones (not beers, lizards), assassins, spearmen, repeater crossbowmen, repeating bolt throwers (about 5 of these, they were great), corsairs, mages, executioners and witch elves. I just had a look at the models they have now and they're much nicer than the old dark elves used to be.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I also play Battlefleet Gothic. It wasn't as fun as 40K or Fantasy since the movements took forever to really get the ships to its best firign solutions. I did enjoy collecting the figures and I went for the Imperial Navy. Just painting up a couple of Emperor-class battleships with its massive rows upon rows of broadside cannons was quite fun.

It looked like you got yourself a nice 2000+ point Blood Angels Army, Exile. Just having Dante alone is around 400-500 points right there. That's the thing about Space marines, even those who have a background history for being CQB specialists like the Blood Angels, Black Templars and Space Wolves, they're still quite balanced enough with range firepower to make them not just have to be rushing the table to come to grips with their opponent. The only thing you really need to supplement your Blood Angels army would be a couple of Land Raiders and maybe one or two Land Raider Crusaders.

Also, if you like the Horus Heresy background history you may want to check out these four paperbacks: Horus Rising, False Gods, Galaxy in Flames and The Flight of the Eisenstein. These four books are the novels currently out detailing the Horus Heresy.

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you see Im actually more interested in the artistic aspect of it. Not as much the game. But it would still be fun. If it was'nt so expensive though Id get into it.


That's pretty much what I do now. I buy figures that I find to have a great look to it. I collect and paint them (or if too busy, have someone else to paint them) and bring put them out on display. Most of the time I have them packed away to minimize the amount of dusting I have to do, but willtake them out for the big Summer worldwide campaign events.
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