the dancing the kids do these days

[kuwaizair]

I just read an artical on how students do their dancing at school dances, as always the kids support their ways and the parents are up in arms. A classic story that will never die.

With each generation someone finds somthing inapperopate. The artical mentioned how once even the Waltz was a "nasty" dance. Now adays teen agers dance with a lot of grinding, preforming dance moves wich posslby look like dogs mating, and coiling lips, arms and legs around your partner.

So should the adults and chaperones stop being scaldnized and find it inapproperate and accept this is how things are today? or should they continue to make a stink about the reveling clothing the girls wear and the agressive 'dance partner' techniques they use to pick out a guy?

one student who got asked why they dance this way said that, its because that is how people dance on TV, so they should to. Celebties do and well then its cool.

now I ask you all what you think? should school dances have dress and dance codes, or allow this behavior?
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[Vincent Chase]

The one thing that I notice about adults who protest these kinds of things is how powerless they are to stop it. When your generation no longer gets to decide what's cool, you won't be changing the way your 13-year-old daughter dresses (or you'll just give her more of a challenge in disobeying you, which they will). They were all teenagers once, and I don't really understand why everything demands them sticking their noses in it. If your daughter is a slut, how she dresses has a lot less to do with it than you might think.

School dances should stay, too. The only reason people dance like they do is because the music is geared to it (predominantly R&B & Hip Hop), and I don't really have a problem with dancing today, closeness is something I enjoy. Every generation in the history of humanity has things that are taboo (and near-taboo) that people do anyways, who are we to take that away from ourselves? I also hope this doesn't get pawned off on the famous either; the only reason kids imitate the famous is because their parents raised them idolizing the wrong set of people.

And frankly, with all of the stuff that goes on in schools that shouldn't (I'm not talking sexual harassment and stuff, but the way teachers have a habit of completely removing the legal rights of a student. That's what the parents should really be doing; informing their kid of their rights), the real problem isn't what the kids are doing when they're having fun, its the fascist environment that they're learning in. How are kids going to grow into well-adjusted adults if the adults are constantly treating them like kids?

[kuwaizair]

eh, prehaps. It just bothers me I never was that way and still am. I'd love to be able to bend over and wiggle my but so my dance partner can grind up behid me. I'd be real people, but I'm not.

that is how kids dance now. Like baboons mating. and the closenss is somthing that is good?
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[Chimei Star]

Dancing still goes on? I just thought there was a rise in seizures in the past few generations.

I'd have to admit again that I have no link to my 'generation' in society nowadays, everything people my age do is too strange or weird for me to be doing as well, in my opinion. But unless you have some proposed law to make dancing in that way illegal, then I don't think things would change much.

As for dress codes, I had the impression that school dances (or proms.. whatever the word is that Americans use) were supposed to have some sort of.. erm.. cleanliness to them? Y'know, boys in shirts, girls in gowns, slow dancing. Maybe that ideal went out the window and it's morphed into some hyper-disco-hybrid.

Just think, in a generation or so, it might start to revert back, that's what trends are.
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[kuwaizair]

[Ikano]

How do you define "dancing" really? I ponder that every time I see people dance in such ways as you describe and there's really nothing that you can argue that would legitimize saying "That's not dancing"

Sure there is a borderline for what you can consider as dancing in public and dancing in the bedroom but in the end it can all still fall under "dancing"

So at this point...dancing in one style versus dancing in another style can only be affected by public pressure and nothing else.
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[Kalidor]

I think that parents do have the right to be concerned about such things. They are the legal guardians of these children after all. Beyond that (and more importantly I'd say) they love their children and want to be able to help them grow in ways that they think will be beneficial to their child. If parents are concerned because something that their children does is against their sense of right and wrong, I think they would be remiss in their parenting duties not to at least comment on it and try and help their child see things from the same view that they have.

That said, there are certain ways to go about things, and certain ways that will actually have some kind of effect on your child. As Vincent Chase pointed out, as soon as something becomes "forbidden" it automatically gains the allure of forbidden fruit. Telling a teenager they can't dance like that is pretty much a sure fire way of getting them to do it.

The problem with a lot of situations like this is that parents can't always define rationally what it is that upsets them about their child's activities. They might feel a sense of moral indignity, but they should also try and recall that their morals are predicated on a completely different time and era. Of course they will have modified some of their beliefs to fit in with the modern world, but by and large I'd say they carry the moral bias of their time. Parents need to try and realise that it is now a different time and historical moment, and that the things that they consider to be proper and improper might not stand up in modern society.

To the issue of dancing itself, I think that dancing is a tool of self expression and one that has changed from generation to the next. There was a time when swing dance was considered scandalous, and rock and roll music was a corrupting influence on the youth. Now I'd say that most parents would see swing dancing as good clean fun. We can be shocked and perhaps upset by things that we don't understand, as many adults might not understand the appeal of modern styles of dancing. However, just because someone doesn't understand something it does not make that thing wrong or make it so that the activity implicitly has less worth. In the case of dancing I think that the parents should analyze what about it is making them uncomfortable with a mind to their bias, and then try and understand the activity from the perspective of their child and the modern society. They should approach the subject openly and honestly with their children in the hopes of two way dialogue. To automatically legislate against it because they are the authority figure, without giving any kind of reasonable rationale to the kids would be a sure fire to build up resentment.

[Ley]

Look, if parents are so concerned about their children dressing like they do, and dancing like they are, then the best way they can combat this is by turning up to the school dance, wearing precisely the same clothes, and joining in with precisely the same dance, perhaps kicking up a fuss about line dancing or something similar. That way the kids will move away from what they are currently doing, and become more conservative, to avoid being embarrased by their parents.

As an 18 year old healthy male, I think dancing is a antiquated part of the mating ritual, and should be phased out for the much more radical option of beating one another with clubs until the strongest is found, then he is exterminated, and the one's sensible enough not to participate are found to be the better choice for the continuation of the human race.

The problem most youths face is the same throughout the ages. As they grow up, they resent the authority placed upon them by those around them, and strive against it in any way they can. Nazi Germany had the Swing youth, who did nothing worse than listen to banned American music, not only because they enjoyed it, but because it was a way for them to rebel from the establishment. What we see nowadays is a continuation of everything that's happened before. A pushing of the boundaries, of the standards of decency, whatever they can to prove their own independance. Regardless of what a lot of parents can do, a lot of youths go through a state of rebellion, and if you didn't then you should consider your parents great parents.
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[AA]

Ku are you saying those dresses you linked to are slutty? Because i don't think they are quite nice.

As for this whole slutty dancing thing, it just seems to be the done thing for younger people at this moment in time whether they have learnt to dance this way by watching R&B hip hop videos doesn't really matter, it's the parents and the teacher who are letting them dance this way, to be honest i doubt ALL of the youngsters are dancing like this, plus i would wager that for a lot of them it is only dancing and no sex will be involved.

Though i would like to know what age these kids are your talking about.

[kuwaizair]

[Milan Fiori]

I'm all in favor of teaching actual dancing in school. It'll solve the bump and grind problem, and it's one hell of a work out. I go Salsa dancing one or twice a week, and come home exhausted.
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[Vincent Chase]

Ku says:

[AA]

If they are 16/17 then here in the UK they can go and do the "hump'n monkey" legally. I really don't see what the problem is or how it affects you so much Ku.

Young Adults (not kids) are just exploring and having a good time, hell if my parents tried to lock me away from the world at that age i would not be a happy camper, sure i had bad time, but even when things where bad i learned a lot.

Going out and grinding with each other, i say try it! You might even like it.

if in the future you don't want your kids to dress like whores or bump uglys with other people then please feel free to educate them that way.

[Acheron]

Dancing is an expression. Teen's express their desire to be viewed as mature. The celebrities portray themselves as mature as having their dance mimic sex. It's also a common held belief that sex is a manifestation of love. Love is an emotion(NEW"S FLASH!!! for the day) and dance is an expression of that emotion. With as many hormones that fly by a teens head every second (male and female alike) it's not surprising the dancing mimics sex. The dance expresses their urge to be mature, which is taught by movies and TV as being in love.

That's a mess up there. There's many factors that make teenage dancing so sexual.

1. Cop Out Reason: Hormones
It's obvious Teens have hormones they can't deal with and have a tendency to let their hormones do the driving. This is very influential in the teenage desire to reproduce.

2. Cop Out 2: Blame the Media
Well, not really a cop out. The media that we see shows love as a very distinct thing. It's between two individuals and it's very valuable. If you don't have it, you're doomed to be unhappy until you can get it. It's also portrayed as a distinction between adults and youths. So another inherent trait to a youth is wanting to be older, with the irony that adults often wish to be young again (human beings, never happy! go figure). So this desire to have sex is also ingrained into youths as something that makes you a man or a woman, no longer a boy or girl.

So teens want sex, what's that got to do with slutty dancing? I'll tell you!

Dancing is an expression! All these sexual urges of young people finally have a universal outlet through dance! Better yet, dancing is a partner thing, just like love! Holy cow! The trend of promiscuous dancing is only becoming more popular because it's culturally acceptable now. Everyone is allowed to have sex, it's okay. We should embrace it, least that's what I hear about it anyways. I imagine we're still riding that sexual revolution of our parents generation. Don't lose hope in society though Kuwaizer and others who are put off by dirty dancing. It'll probably solve itself like in the past with the institution of more morally strict codes and taboo's by a religious revival or the genesis of a new faith all together. Least I think it will. O well, no worries. You can always step/look away. The blind eye has never produced bad results.