Rakgi's Father, Brandeau and Steele

Scrooge McDuck · Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:44 am Post subject:

Ah, right. I must have chose to delete the wrong line of quotation. I apologize and shall repair it with haste.

Also about Rakgi father's = Steele speculation; just pay no heed of it. I have just realized that Rakgi's father had a death scene in Suikoden IV, which differs greatly from Steele's death in Rhapsodia.
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Lonelion · Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject:

Scrooge McDuck · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:03 am Post subject:

Ujitsuna · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:03 am Post subject:

There may have been a number of minor characters that beared the rune in between The Queen of Obel's tenure with the rune and Graham Cray's son.

That or the Rune of Punishment waited inactively again until it was awoken by Graham's son.

Acheron · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject:

When in that little table did the Rune of Punishment end up in the skeleton mans hand in the back of Obel Ruins? Am I misunderstanding this or was it the ancient civilization who got it from there? If it wasn't Rikie's husband who took it from the back of the ruins, why would they be there? Is Rikie a ghost? They are from Na-Nal, based on their looks, but why were they at the ruins? Am I not remembering the game right?

redxa3 · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject:

Well I'm not really sure about the order of the past bearers of the Rune of Punishment.

But Rikie was never a ghost. They were there as a form of comemoration for her husband, it was like they were waitin for him to return.
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Ujitsuna · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject:

The Rune of Punishment on the skeleton's hand is the first known bearer of the Rune of Punishment, the Queen of Obel took the rune from it before fighting the pirates off.

Acheron · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:40 pm Post subject:

That's what I thought Hayashi, so in the explanation there is really no need to include this ancient civilization since you can say Obel Corpse, being that it is unknown whether it is ancient or just dustified by the Rune. Unfortunately this still begs the question as to why Rikie and Rakgi were at the end of the ruins. Why would they have known to be there? What relation does that place have to Rakgi's father? Is it a continuity error or am I still missing a linking event?

Ujitsuna · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject:

I think Rikie sensed the power of the rune there (she states she feels something that reminds her of Rakgi's father) and it reminded her of Rakgi's father, thats why she was there, then Lazlo turned up and she reminded her of him again because of the Rune of Punishment.

Lonelion · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject:

Ujitsuna · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject:

I doubt they'll ever be filled Lonelion, Suikoden IV and Tactics both left them relatively blank, and I think thats as much as we'll get, I can't see a valid reason for Konami to go back to the Island Nations at that exact point in time anyway.

Vextor · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject:

Ujitsuna · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject:

Yeah thats right, silly me.

Vextor · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject:

Silly silly Hayashi-san!!

And to clarify, Rikie and Rakghi were there because they've been appointed by Lion En Kuldez as caretakers of the ruin. I really don't understand why though, considering all those monsters inside the ruin, etc. It's one of those "they really didn't think much about plot in Suikoden 4, did they?" type of deals. I'm sure John Layfield will agree.

There's also a timeline problem, especially due to Rhapsodia.

Before Rhapsodia, the official info stated by Konami was that Brandeau gained the ROP only a few months before it went to Lazlo. However, in Rhapsodia, the rune goes to Brandeau YEARS before he would ever meet Lazlo. This puts Rikie's Husband in a limbo. Konami has never clarified this problem, either. It's very frustrating because now we have a sequence of events that makes no sense at all.

Ujitsuna · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject:

I don't think it'd be wise for Konami to clarify or shed light on a mistake it's made, we should just bury it and say that the Sindar did it.

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