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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Wait. Remember that the sun is a star. And Zerase bears the star rune. If so, is it possible she's the one who created the sun rune?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The 27 True Runes were created at the beginning of the world. So unless Zerase has been around since before the creation of the Suikoden world, then it's impossible for her to have created the Sun Rune. It seems far more likely that the Sun Rune, or perhaps Night Rune created her.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Or perhaps both. Seeing as the Dawn and Twilight runes are "children runes" of the Sun and Night runes, perhaps the Star Rune is, as well, with more of the Night Rune's mannerisms and powers, and such.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I just replayed Suikoden 2 and 4. I am really sure that the star dragon sword which used to kill Neclord is that Night Rune itself.

When Viktor is about to give the sword to Neclord, Kahn said "We should not lose the Night Rune" That means it is proved that the sword is the night rune that kills and creates creatures in the night like Neclord or perhaps, Zerase who looks like a vampire. I think the Night Rune created her to guard the Sun Rune. Nobody said that the Night Rune hates the Sun Rune. It just said it was irritated by the strong light so it reincarenated itself to a sword.

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Well, that's my idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

the star dragon sword is the night rune incarnation.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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In the beginning, there was "darkness." Then, the "darkness" shed a "tear."
From that "tear," the brothers Sword and Shield were born.
Shield claimed it could defend against any attack.
Sword claimed it could slice through anything.
The brothers began a legendary battle.
At the end, both Sword and Shield shattered.
Sword became the sky, Shield became the earth, and the sparks from the battle became the stars.
As for the jewels, they fell to the ground and became the True Runes--The runes that all other runes were born from.


The phrase that I underlined. Aren't that sparks from the battlebecame the stars? Something in me tells there's a connection of it and the stars of destiny that Zerase bears since she is the bearer of the stars.

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from wikipedia... about the night rune.

The Rune is also mysterious in that the sorceress Zerase claims to be the daughter of the Night Rune, and that she had her own Star Rune bestowed upon her by the Rune itself.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Wikipedia wrote:
The Rune is also mysterious in that the sorceress Zerase claims to be the daughter of the Night Rune, and that she had her own Star Rune bestowed upon her by the Rune itself.


Did the Night Rune actually bestow it on Zerase personally? Or is that just someone editing Wikipedia incorrectly?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

lol, wikipedia info can't be reliable since any one can edited it. i can go on the site and change it to ronald mcdonald was the original owner of the night rune.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I suspect Zerase is a being who's similar to Yuber and Pesmerga. Both Yuber and Zerase have extensive knowledge of true runes, are very old, are powerful mages, are contemptuous of most humans, and are both human-looking but not quite human. Zerase seems to have an aura similar to Pesmerga as well (they move silently as if they are ghosts or shadows).

She's also clearly linked to the Night rune somehow, and it's possible that she was summoned by the Night rune to help deal with the mess in Falena. Of course this assumes that the Night rune still cares about what happens in Falena (and the Sun rune).
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Yuber is not a powerful mage Wolf Stew. The only thing Zerase has in common with Yuber and Pesmerga is that she's mysterious/dark. There's also no indication that Yuber knows any more about the true runes than any normal person would.

Zerase was once the wielder of the Zodiac sword, and thus was once wielder of the Night Rune, but I've never even heard that the star rune was given to her by the Night rune.

I think it's fairly obvious from the earlier appearances of the Zodiac sword, that the Night rune isn't concerned with anything except hunting vampires and arguing. He had no reason to know that there was anything going on in Falena, and thus obviously didn't send Zerase.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Kuchiki Byakuya wrote:
There's also no indication that Yuber knows any more about the true runes than any normal person would.


I'm not sure about that, he indicates in Greenhill that his opinion of people with True Runes is that they are cursed and must be "freed."
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I won't get too indepth with the topic, but I do believe that Zerase's rune isn't just any normal rune. Levi did once state that it was one of a kind, and that might actually make her the posessor of a semi-true Rune (if there is such a thing).

I actually do believe that her rune is something similiar to that of the Dawn Rune or Twilight Rune.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Hayashi Ujitsuna wrote:
Kuchiki Byakuya wrote:
There's also no indication that Yuber knows any more about the true runes than any normal person would.


I'm not sure about that, he indicates in Greenhill that his opinion of people with True Runes is that they are cursed and must be "freed."


that can be due to he has his own true rune and also could already be plotting with luc on the events that happened in 3.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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that can be due to he has his own true rune and also could already be plotting with luc on the events that happened in 3.


Yeah but it shows Yuber has knowledge of True Runes though, doesn't it?
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

it doe but it could mean he learned it from windy during the time he spent with her.
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