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Ryusei
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:47 am Post subject: What if Konami decides to make Suikoden spin-off titles? |
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Just from the threads around here, questions arose from my mind. Let's assume the Suikoden series is over. Everything is said and done and everything has been revealed to us. We now know everything about the world of Suikoden.
Let's also assume that Suikoden has now become very popular. It has now become the most popular RPG in time, even more popular than, say, Final Fantasy. Because of it's popularity, Konami does not want to end the series. Now, what if Konami makes a spin-off out of Suikoden and makes other titles out of it. What if Konami makes a strategy war game, a fighting game, a 3rd person shooter game, an action adventure game, an MMORPG or any other genre of games based on Suikoden just to keep the series alive.
Now, my questions are would you still support Suikoden by buying these spin-off titles? Would you still love the series after so many spin-off games have been made based on it? And what if the games don't suit your taste? Would you hate Suikoden because of that?
I just want to hear everyone's opinion about this. I for one don't wan't Suikoden to end up like this. I would probably even hate Suikoden if ever this would happen. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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If the main series was over, you say? Maybe. It'd really depend on whether the games expanded on the universe and story of the Suikoden world in a tolerable sense.
I'd love a Suikoden war game, by the way. _________________ One day, I shall come back. Yes, we shall all come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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For me personally, it'd depend on the quality of these spin-offs. If it's good quality, then sure I'll play the game if I can afford to. But if it's half-baked game, then I don't want to be bothered with it. I do think that if such spin-offs were to be made, then it'd be of good quality since Suikoden relies heavily to the storyline unlike Final Fantasy. So therefore, even if the spin-offs are of different genre, it should still maintain the level of storyline that has been the trademark of Suikoden series.
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Now, my questions are would you still support Suikoden by buying these spin-off titles? Would you still love the series after so many spin-off games have been made based on it? And what if the games don't suit your taste? Would you hate Suikoden because of that? |
Personally, I think you're being far too negative about these imaginary spin-offs. What if the question is being reversed? What if the games actually suit to your taste? Would you hate Suikoden series?
And now that I think of it, what difference is it exactly than the current spin-offs that we have already? We have 5 traditional RPG in form of Suikoden I, II, III, IV, and V. Now let's see the spin-offs that we already have. Card Stories, SuikoGaiden Vol.1 and Vol.2, and Suikoden Tactics/Rhapsodia. That's 4 spin-offs already which is almost half of the whole thing (and prior to Suikoden V's release, that's exactly half of the whole thing already). Do you hate Suikoden series now? If not, why would you hate it if Konami made spin-offs in the future? Just because they're trying to keep the series alive? _________________
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Black Pesmerga wrote: |
Personally, I think you're being far too negative about these imaginary spin-offs. What if the question is being reversed? What if the games actually suit to your taste? Would you hate Suikoden series?
And now that I think of it, what difference is it exactly than the current spin-offs that we have already? We have 5 traditional RPG in form of Suikoden I, II, III, IV, and V. Now let's see the spin-offs that we already have. Card Stories, SuikoGaiden Vol.1 and Vol.2, and Suikoden Tactics/Rhapsodia. That's 4 spin-offs already which is almost half of the whole thing (and prior to Suikoden V's release, that's exactly half of the whole thing already). Do you hate Suikoden series now? If not, why would you hate it if Konami made spin-offs in the future? Just because they're trying to keep the series alive? |
Yeah, maybe I am too negative about these spin-offs. It's just that many of my experiences with spin-offs in games make my opinion of a game turn sour. I used to love Final Fantasy. Same with Warcraft. But now, with all these spin-offs, my opinions about these games drastically changed.
It's just that I'm only afraid that I will hate Suikoden if it ever goes into making spin-offs. I actually even hated Suikoden for some time because of it's spin-offs. I just got back to the series because of Suikoden V. I can't really explain why I dislike spin-offs so much. It's just me though. |
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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I'd love a Suikoden war game, by the way. |
This sums up my opinion nicely.
Well, spin-offs do sometimes damage game franchises. It depends. The core character of Suikoden is its RPG nature, of course, and so if things like Final Fantasy's Dirge of Cerberus are made, it detracts a bit from that. However, if the spin-offs are popular and well-made, then they will help to ensure the continuation of the RPG series. Or, if they ever decide to 'end' the Suikoden series, then spin-offs will be a nice way for me to get my fanboy fix without having to resign myself to nostalgia discussions about Suikoden I in another few years.
The key words there are, of course, 'well-made'. If the spin-off is going to be anything less than superb, I'd rather they didn't make it at all. However, I'm not sure that Konami would go the Dirge of Cerberus route with Suikoden...I would think that either a war type game or some kind of fighting game would be more in line with the character of Suikoden. What makes Suikoden unique, after all, are the duels and large army battles and the large number of recruitables. Otherwise, it's fundamentally no different from your Final Fantasy (or any other RPG) titles really. _________________
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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A war game would seem the most logical idea... It's a natural extension of what Suikoden is. And in that sense I think when making a spinoff of a game, it should have gameplay similar enough that the gamer will be comfortable playing both. For example, having a rhythm dancing game based off Karen wouldn't work. Nor would a FPS based off Clive. _________________
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:28 am Post subject: |
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It really is deoends on how Konami going to make the game...
if it's related to any of the Suikoden series, say battle wars using Suikoden 2 or 3 or something characters and then just war war war without the fight at forests or something like that, of course i would play it and love it...
but if it's not any related to Suikoden, i might gonna think twice first about it :) |
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Flamo wrote: |
but if it's not any related to Suikoden |
A spin-off game can be a spin-off game even if it's not related to the main-genre games? I wonder. :P
Yes, I do believe you're being too negative, no offense. I never disliked the Suikoden series no matter how much Suikoden IV sucked, so said almost everyone else. In my opinion, you shouldn't judge a game franchise negatively if one or two of their games became a disappointment to gamers, because that's just being a perfectionist, in my beliefs.
Again, no offense. _________________
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: |
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No offense taken, uwangski. Yes, some of the Suikoden games were dissapointments but I never truly hated Suikoden for a long time because of that. Konami has done well in removing my hatred from the series with their work with Suikoden V.
I never judged Suikoden because some of the games were dissapointments. It's just that I want the best to happen for the series. Yes, I would feel bad and probably hate Suikoden for a while if ever Konami fails at a Suikoden game but that hatred and anger would be lost after a short while. I never was the kind of person to store in the hatred and anger I feel inside. Instead, I forget about that hatred think of the future. If ever Suikoden makes mistakes of their installments, I would hope for a better Suikoden in the future. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:18 am Post subject: |
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I think an online Suikoden RPG could work out extremely well, due to the significance the geography of the Suikoden world has in regards to the series. There'd be a lot to explore, do, etc... Also, not to mention the different types of races to choose from. |
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I want an RTS on Suikoden, then.
THink of something like Battle Realms - ceot that it's based around SUikoden. You could choose between nations, and each nation could have their own units (Ex: Island Nations Pirates and Kanakan having Falcon swordmasters.), they could also have legendary figures (like Lepant/Hugo available for battle as a hero or something).
They could also add mercenary buildings for any player to hire., so people would try and outrace each other to hire Fliktor.
As for having a Campaign mode - maybe they cuold let you relive the wars, except that all your battles are the big-scale wars.
That would sooooo be awesome. And I'm sure as hell going to want this. :D _________________
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:40 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if I'd want Suikoden to go all crazy on us a la Dirge of Cerberus or anything like that, but I do agree with John regarding a war game. That would be a rather natural extension.
I think I'd be more interested in user-created content of some kind. I remember someone was planning a Suikoden modification for Civilization IV... something like that would almost be worth risking a kernal panic trying to play the bloody game on my poor little computer. _________________ • The Caffeine-Fueled Blogonomicon - Your Best Daily Source For Inappropriate Content. |
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edited to avoid duplicate
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Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Argh... lag time causing problems the other day, I guess.
The gist of what I said was I agree that suikoden spin offs need to be high quality and I'd like to see an MMORPG, or a war game, or strategy, and a Civ expansion would be beyond cool!
But I hate it when endless spin offs cheapen the whole experience and make me sick of the original thing. So I guess I'd rather err on the side of two few, and still be hungry for more, than have too much and be tired of it.
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