Have no nation? Become a mercenary!

[Pilika]

Moody Mage, do not tell me you are thinking about leaving?
A little bit of subject but how are secret usergroups created and how many of them are out there?
I think that biding would make it io expensive, since a merc could say he has a better offer and make you pay more.

[Gaara]

So it is possible for a member of a nation to quit his nation if he wants and then become a mercenary?

[Vextor]

Yeah, members are able to quit a nation whenever they want, but if they do that, they'll probably have a very hard time joining one again. It's a pretty huge breach of trust.

[Sophita]

It also means losing your soldiers, IIRC (if you quit the unofficial way) and being severed from a group - Your nation leader wouldn't hand you soldiers anymore, as you'd obviously "jumped ship". Even if you think the mercenaries are cool, you'll actually have less chance of being used in the system if you're a mercenary, as you'll be pay for play. I think right now most leader are going to focus on strengthening their own units - it doesn't make sense to pay for something you can get for free. It'll be used, but probably not as much as say, a nation's own members.

Besides, I think it's more fun to see members of my own nation fight for our country, rather than hired thugs. Which is not to say that those mercenaries wouldn't be valuable, but they'd be of lesser value than seeing, say, one of my fellow falenians manage a hard-fought victory.
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[Vextor]

You called me a hired thug!! *sulks*

[Cedric]

A hired thug that everyone will be begging to hire, just you watch, SARS. ^^
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[Elc]

I wouldn't exactly classify the administrators as mere hired thugs, not at all. Since it would hardly be fair for either SARSadmin or Synchysi to align with one specific nation, since they have access to all the forums around here, this finally allows them the opportunity to participate in the battles. However, since wanderers are people who have turned away from the nation system, it's reasonable to classify them as the hired thugs. They could help nation-x win a battle over nation-y in one phase, and in the next help nation-z win a battle over nation-x. No loyalty involved, just money.

Sophita, I support and share your position entirely. I would much rather have a Falenian bring glory to the Queendom than spend x-amount of soldiers to hire a one-time player. When distributed amongst the Falenian units; those soldiers will, barring any need to deduct them later, come into play in any subsequent battles those units participate in, unlike a mercenary who will just thank you for the soldier payment and put themselves back up for hire to any interested nation.

The only real advantage I see to the mercenaries, aside from filling up any gaps in defense, is the unpredictability factor. You can surprise an opposing army by utilizing a mercenary but, should the nation wish to make a "long term" arrangement should the mercenary prove effective, as suggested earlier in the thread, the surprise factor would be less effective during the following phases... particularly if the mercenary in question was always unavailable to other nations.
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[Sophita]

[Gaara]

I agree with Sophita on using your own nation's soldiers rather than a mercenary. Donating soldiers not only strengthens your nation's members for 1 phase but for the remainder of their account membership, whereas donating soldiers to hire a merc may be effective in 1 specific phase, but then he wouldn't be a part of your nation anymore. Not only that, the soldiers you've donated could be used against you in the following turns by an opposing nation.

I'd also rather see members of my own nation bringing victory to my nation rather than mercenaries. Especially one who'd be bigheaded and go around the boards saying "If it weren't for me, Zexen wouldn't stand a chance against Falena, I tell you!!!" That kind of behaviour would just be downright irritating. But if a member of my nation were to be bragging about it, it'd be more or less because he's saved his country as a hero.

[Baka]

But mercenary is cool too :D I mean they are wandering from one place to another. I mean for people who loves freedom... it's just the perfect choice :lol:

Well for some people who disagree SARSadmin as mercenary since he can goes in and out of other nation... why dont you discuss the war using other method such as PMs or emails... maybe more unconvenient but at least it kept your secret hidden :lol:

Ah... Cheer up SARSadmin, like what Ced had said... maybe one day... all nation leader will come to you and beg for you to join them :lol:

[Vextor]

There won't be any problem if I have access to all nation's boards. As a mercenary, I have no say over actual strategy--I merely represent my soldier count.

[Decado]

[Aurelien]

I actually think that hiring a mercenary would be very useful. I mean, come on, people. The cost is only 1/20 of the soldiers hired. If you pay 1,000 soldiers, you get yourself a unit with 20,000 soldiers (though no mercenary has that many soldiers just yet). At a very small cost of 500 soldiers, you would get a unit of 10,000 soldiers already. That's big big big. That could turn a losing battle into a very winnable one.

While it's true that we only get the service of that mercenary for 1 guaranteed phase, it's still a beneficial thing to do if you choose to do it. And if you managed to sort of "bond" with the mercenary, you might even have that person to join your nation as well (with the exception of the admins that is). So it's not always a short-term goal, but might be beneficial for a long-term as well.

Oh I have two more questions about hiring mercenaries:
1. Is there any set time for a nation to approach and try to hire a mercenary (like transfer window in sports)? For example, we just started phase 3 (let's say a battle has its first round only so far), can we already try to hire a mercenary for phase 4 or must we finish phase 3 first?
2. It's mentioned that mostly anything is up to the mercenary themselves wether to take an offer or not. But could a nation hire a mercenary for more than 1 phase with 1 discussion between the nation and mercenary? Meaning that the nation hires the mercenary on phase 3, but for the service on both phase 4 and 5 (of course pay twice at the said time).
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[Decado]

[Aurelien]

Well the point remains that you could get 20,000 soldiers by paying 1,000 soldiers only.
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