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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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I think he's a very good receiver, but I've never read anywhere that he was Number 1 receiver material. I know that a lot of whats being written about Welker is the road he took to get to where he is now. The media likes to prop Welker up because he's the anti-Moss, anti-Ocho Cinco, anti-TO. He's not a receiver diva and for a slot receiver he's more than just good.
Even before coming to the Patriots Welker was the kind of player who just drove opposing coaches nuts due to his ability to get open, catch balls cleanly and get yards after the catch in-between linebackers and safeties. Remember, Welker was good enough that the Patriots decided the best way to stop the guy was to trade for him their second-round draft pick. This is also a player who was undrafted, cut by a Chargers team who really could use his services right about now, and was refused a scholarship by 104 Div-1A teams.
While he's not the next receiver messiah he is the kind of receiver who would usually get no press and write-ups from writers but who drive opposing defensive coordinators nuts. He's the guy that gets the tough catches on slant routes and even tougher yards after. Yes, Moss and Stallworth helps give him much clearer lanes in the middle, but he was already doing the same thing in Miami when they couldn't pass to save their life last season. _________________
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:42 am Post subject: |
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Welkder did 687 yds with 67 receptions and 1 TD with the dolphins. That wasn't the run-away-best on the team in terms of overall production. Compare:
Chambers got 59 rec, 677 yds and 4 TD
McMichael got 62 rec, 640 yds and 3 TD
Everyone was catching on that 'phins team last year because Bonnnie laid an egg. I honestly don't think he's good at all. I also don't think he drove anyone nuts; the phins scored in the bottom 3 for scoring offence in the AFC. He used to get no press and no write ups because he was just another receiver. Now, he's in a system and taking advantage of it so the media are jock-riding this guy all the way to the weekend.
NFL Media Hype machine in full effect. I hate hype.... I hate undue hype more and it will be my mission, at Suikox, until Sunday that Welker be known as a product of the system! Yarrr! _________________ ______ "We're still flying"
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:17 am Post subject: |
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You're just jealous.
Eh, never really liked hype myself though. One this I always used to like about the Patriots as they never believe their wins came from superstar players, but rather an overall team effort. I hope that doesn't change, even after all this. But oh well. _________________ Be awed by our prowess!
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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I think he's a good WR. He catches the football.
But is he a great receiver? No. As others have said, he runs underneath routes that aren't ever covered against the Patriots because of the deep threat. I'm sure he drives coaches nuts this year. They'd love to cover him, except they'd get slammed by Moss for 30.
The Patriots were very wise to trade for him though, because he's a perfect addition to their offense. _________________
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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My new rant!! :D
What the hell is Ryan Seacrest doing at the Superbowl?!?! Wait, before we get to that... why the hell is there a red carpet at the superbowl!?!? What happened to the largest corporate schmooze known as the Superbowl where we knew it'd be about Football, player stories, and ads. Now it's become a... well... I don't know.
I don't like this change. _________________ ______ "We're still flying"
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Could the problem be solved by punching Ryan Seacrest in the face? That's always been a dream of mine.
Seriously though...I don't like it either. The Superbowl seems to have a different character this year. I thought it was good the way it was, damnit! _________________
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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LOL!
Great
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season, Pats!
Sorry. It was a great game and I don't mean to offend. However, I can't wait for the reaction on ESPN. Everyone was going for the Patriots and it didn't happen. _________________
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder how much bet money was LOST today. Could be a record amount. =P _________________
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:00 am Post subject: |
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So, fuck everyone. Yup. Anyways, I'm ready now. Bring it on :) _________________
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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I'm not going to work tomorrow, that's for sure! Anywho, if I had to go to work tomorrow, I would, but thankfully, I can pass for another couple days. Goddamn, I hate everyone right now. Fuck! I think I'm harder on myself than anyone else is. Come on, give me shit! It would make me feel mildly better. No, it wouldn't. _________________
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:39 am Post subject: |
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LX _________________
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I love my Pats but they sucked today, the Giants deserved to win the game. I am still the same old die hard fan sitting there in my Wes Welker Jersey (who was one of the few Pats that were good) but I just know I'm going to hear crap along these lines soon:
1. The Patriots chocked
The OL sucked for the most part of the game and the DBs were not good at the end but that's not chocking away a game. Nevermind the fact NE had the lead, NY was great rushing Brady the entire game, and the Gaints won because they made plays at key moments of the game.
2. They are no where near the best team ever
If there were a bit more attention paid to how Manning fumbled at least once on that last drive, or if Tyree was squeezing that ball at a different angle on his helmet and it popped out... they would be 19-0. I know those things are a part of the game, and the Giants made the plays when they had to so they earned what they got, but to now say the Pats are worthless when they were the best team ever because of those lucky plays is just crap. Yeah they don't deserve to be mentioned on the best teams list after not winning it all, especially looking back at this season years from now, but based on what happened tonight it is more about NE playing a bad game and NY getting some good breaks than anything else.
3.This was the greatest upset because no one gave the Giants a chance
I think the NY players earned this win but if they start to go around and keep saying that BS then I hope they'll never get to the super bowl again. First of all, the greatest & most significant NFL upset in recent history is when the two TD underdog Pats beat the Rams in SB36. Secondly, the only reason more people were picking NE was because they were unbeaten, if they even had only one loss many would have gone with the Giants instead. Yes it was an upset but other than the fact it happened on a bigger stage, it's not much greater than when the Giants beat the Cowboys & Packers weeks ago, just look at the lines. _________________ SAVE A.D. - S.O.B.s
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