Killing and Murder

[Sage]

As far as I'm concerned, like several others, intent is what defines murder, in any sense. If you mean to take a life, you are murdering. If not, then you have killed, not murdered. Circumstances aside from that do not matter to me. In the end, someone is dead and someone else has ended that life, but it is intent that pushes "kill" to "murder." It doesn't necessarily take someone evil like we see on TV or movies to want to kill someone.

I do not think killing is ever justified, so I cannot say that it is. However, some circumstances are understandable. Would I call these people (such as those who acted in self-defense or soldiers) killers or murderers? No. That's a can of worms I leave alone. I wouldn't want to talk about it or be labeled as such, so I extend the same courtesy.

In the end, I do not think you can lump killing and murdering under one category based on the end result, in either the moral or legal sense.
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[Phamex]

You make a good point Sage. My opinion just comes from the fact that, if I were to take someone's life, in self-defense or otherwise, I would feel like a murderer. No matter the circumstances the end result would be the same and I'd have to carry that with me for the rest of my life.
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[Fu Su Lu]

Good point, but what happens if you are driving at a higher speed than the allowed and you run over someone killing her/him? Some countries laws would see it as inprudent homicide, others like true killing. Intent is the most important thing, but not the only one.

If you try to defend your life shooting someone who was attacking you with a knife, the judge will have to value circumstances like the direction where you shooted (to the head? to the legs to stop him/her?), number of shoots, distance,etc to resolve if your intention was killing or not. Once and again, I remember that every country law is different
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[Eden]

I wonder that nobody seemed to raise the point of death penalty ordered by the government yet :mrgreen:
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The Fool

[Splendid Monkey]

[Fu Su Lu]

If so, my monkey friend:

Is all killing murder?
Yes. Not per se, but yes in a large meaning

Is all killing evil?
No, not all.
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[SolemnSound]

this topic reminds me of what happened to one of my friends the other week. she was involved in a car accident. a motorcyclist sideswiped her and was ejected from the bike and killed. she was fine but is still distraught from the fact that a human being was killed because of an accident involving her and her vehicle. granted at least I believe that it wasnt her fault and the accident report would also state that the accident was not her fault but rather the bikers fault for speeding and what not, but still she is quite upset over the whole ordeal.
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[Urn]