What if Nintendo made more mature games?

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[Yvl]

I didn't say there COULDN'T be Goomba guts.
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[Zelphiel]

Zelda would be just like how I've always wanted if they went in that direction.

I've always wanted a chronological sequel where Link is 30 years old. And by that point he'd be a hardened, elite warrior with no compassion whatsoever for his enemies.

of course that goes against most of what Zelda is in the first place so it'd never really 'feel' right. I just think it'd be cool to see something like that.
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[RedCydranth]

I've never been a fan of the "Mature" games that are out. Maybe its my personality or dislike for blood, guts, sex and drugs but I don't do that in real life nor do I ever want to. Sure sometimes a good play of Grand Theft Auto is releiving of some stress getting to kill a few people but in general I'm not one to fingd joy in those themes.

I don't play video games to see those themes either. Even though Resident Evil 4 was brilliantly done with the gore and everything, I didn't play the game for that reason. I've yet to beat it but it was a good game dispite the levels of bllod and such. However to add blood to Zelda, Mario or even Metroid is unneccessary. That element isn't what makes those games great. Its the gameplay. If zelda drew blood every time he killed an anemy, I'd dislike it because its severely unneccessary. I look back at Ocarina of Time and picture drawing blood and it detracts more than it adds. It gets even worse with Mario. Come on, guts and blood in a mario game is totally outside what that game is about. Mario is supposed to be the icon of good clean video gaming. He stands for doing the right thing, even iof it means travelling outside Brooklyn into a fantasy world of turtles, goombas. magic pipes and smashable bricks that hover. Nowhere does blood or realism ever take a front line in that game.

Not to say some games wouldn't do well wth it in there, but those games have already been esptablished. Metal Gear and Resident Evil are perfect examples of games that could be placed on a Nntendo system and still use the mature tag. Also, we've all conveniently forgotten Conker: Bad Fur Day. That game was vulgar and crude. And I bekeive it was made for the GameCube too, so Nintendo has had a few games that broke the mold. They just don't need to introduce that to thewir flag franchises like Mario, Pokémon, Zelda, Metroid and Kirby.

With all the emphasis on realism and graphics, Nintendo has made a point to keep out of that race. The wii will, graphically, be subpar to the competition, however they focus on more important things like gameplay, multiplayability and compatibility with prior systems. Things that I think real gamers want. I think thats where Sony and Microsoft are going wrong. Its in the name of their product. Video games. If they become too realistic and lifelike and include too much from real life such as mature themes, they no longer become games, but life simulation. A lot of the games for X-Box and the like are so graphically enhanced you actually feel as if you're there when Master Chief frags his enemy. Before you know it there will be a mount on the X-Box that actually sprays you with fake blood if you're close enough to a good head shot.

Its my beleif that Nintendo purposely stays "kiddie" because there will always be that market. Kids will alays be willing to play a game without all that stuff and as long as X-Box and Playstation keep churning out these M rated games, Nintendo will always be the parental favorite for not taking that route with their flag franchises.

Should Nintendo release a few games that have some sex, drugs or gore, bet your behind that they'll be rated properly and have fair warning to parents that the game is not suitable for their child.

As for a "Darker themed" Mario or Zelda, I think Twilight Princess is going to be the darkest themed game in the franchise. From what I have seen and heard, the game has much darker themes than ever before and the storyline is not suitable for pre-teens. And Paper Mario has had a darker theme than the rest of the Mario Series, but its still nothing close to what Yvl suggests, nor should it.

Mario, Kirby and Pokémon are all games that should never delve into the darkness. Zelda and Metroid can because of the adventourous nature of those games but the other three are too lighthearted fantasy to do so. Nintendo can always produce new titles that are darker and more occult and such and I'm fine with that, but to pull one of their flag franchises in on the experiment wouldn't be my idea of a good choice. I think with the resurgence of Pit in Super Smash Brothers: Melee, a new Kid Icarus franchise can be molded and that game could definitely get into a darker themed world with more absolute evil afoot and such. But keeping it good enough to qualify as a Nintendo franchise requires it stay away from suggestive themes.
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[Timbo]

I think Nintndo ahs good amount of 'mature' games, but they don't get as much attention as other 'mature' PS2 and X-Box titles. In terms of blood and killing Gamecube has the Metroid sereis, Eternal Darkness and the Resident Evil series are just to name a few.

I would like to see is more mature story lines. I think Ninintendo has plausible ways of doing i too and I think a good way for the storeis to becoem more mature is to somewhat mimic the HArry Pootter seies. Harry Potter statred out as bringe a litle kid and he stops evil magicians, but over time he grew up adn become more a of a complete person: having hatred, love intersts, defining himself as a person. But, through this whole time the series is still kid friendly. I don;t seee why Nintendo can't do that. Especially with something like Zelda.
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[Masa]

Technically I don't think Nintendo owns Eternal Darkness - that belongs to Silicon Knights who went third party.

A 'mature' franchise that Nintendo is actually starting to consider would be Project HAMMER for the Nintendo Wii.
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[fuji]

I could care less about Nintendo's mature games... in fact, I don't much care about Playstation and Xbox's either. Some are fun, but they don't make the console for me. It's not about blood, gore, sex or swearing.

If Nintendo made NEW franchises that dealt with themes young adults (and subsequently adults) would enjoy, I think they'd do a lot better. They seem to target younger kids, and they've continued to target that group with their games. Games such as Metal Gear Solid, though not necessarily "mature" in the blood/gore sense, still would do wonders for the system.

I think if the storylines, plots, characters or environments were targeted at young adults they would be better off. There are some games that do this, I know that... but I think if they made more, it would help them.

That said, I dislike the idea of messing with Zelda or Mario. Those franchises are great, I wouldn't go messing around there.
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[Zeik Tuvai]

Um... Nintendo more mature... Hmm... Yeah, no. I pray to Bob that they never change their ways. Yes, the Wii would have kept it's cool previous name, but you know, they are a fantastic company.

I have my orignal NES with Duck Hunt, and it still works. I recently passed my SNES down to my niece, because I got her hooked on Yoshi's Island (for those unaware, that game is about child abuse, dinosaur's getting stoned, and Kirby wannabees that moon you... Lol You think I'm kidding, don't you? ...). She's a total Zelda buff, we've spent hours on Ocarina of Time on the N64 together (Link is already corrupt enough, if you look for it. It's not hard). And what on earth isn't corrupt about Mario??? He eats mushrooms and gets big? That's a whole Llewis Carol trip right there.

I guess my point is... Why ruin a perfectly good thing? It's mature enough as it is, but in a way that's fun for kids. My own father pointed half of this stuff out to me as I got older.