DS or PSP?

[Elc]

I'm not really into handheld systems anymore, though I had a Gameboy over ten years ago, until it was ripped off. Given the choice, though, chances are I would get the PSP.
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I dunno, I'd probably go for the ds for the backwards compat with the gba, but the psp might have better games.....i dunno, i'd have to look at the games coming out before i'd buy one....maybe both? :D

[Gil-galad]

I've got the DS, and I'm getting the PSP for the next holidays. ^^ They both look neat, if I had to choose the one I'm more interested in, deffinetly PSP. After playing the DS I've found a few things that irk me. After playing it for an extended period of time my hands get cramped, possibly due to the design of the machine... it's kinda squarey... And the lack of an analog is making controlling 3D games(Mario 64 is the only one I've played yet) annoying. But there's a bunch of neat games comming out, and they look to have neat uses of the touch screen, so it's enough to buy I'd say.

PSP has some awesome games, aswell as a really sexy design. :D A Huge screen, an analog to help control 3D better... and I've heard the design is made so you can play extended periods of time, without your hands cramping up. And recently, I've heard that battery life for games is approx. 7 hours. That's longer then I'm going to play it in any car ride, I know that for sure, I don't see why people are complaining.
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[Dakota]

Does anyone know the release date for Animal Crossing DS & Super Mario 64 DS.
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[Gil-galad]

Super Mario 64 DS is already out, and I believe that Animal Crossing DS comes out early 2005.
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[Esra]

For the hand cramping, they'll probably make some kind of extra grip attachment like how they did with the GBAsp.

I know from personal experience because of the size difference between the GBAsp and my hands lead to the cramping problem (The grips help immensly).

[Lucied]

Personally, I look at the DS graphics, and say it's somewhere between N64 and Dreamcast. While PSP has graphics between DC and PS2.

Now, graphics aren't anything. I understand that. But Nintendo has made it clear that they don't care about graphics anymore, and they're going for new gameplay routes. Which, looking at DS, makes me worry about Revolution.

I'm not sold on the touch screen. Looks like a cheap gimmick to me. I don't see any serious gameplay implications of it. And the games using it are silly. I still can't believe they're making a full game out of that tech demo of drawing Pac-Man. And not even all games are using the touch screen. In a lot of cases, it's just used as a map.
It's big, bulky, and has two large, gimicky, backlit screens. Not to mention that it's still cartridge based.

PSP on the other hand, is sleek, stylish, and something you'd be proud to whip out on the plane or bus, and not look like a goof. Has a huge and beautiful screen, and is disk powered. Meaning CD quality music, and DVD quality video. Not to mention that it's more powerful than DS, and has a good amount of developer support. Plus, it's Sony :)

Nothing against Nintendo, but they are seriously losing their grip. I've owned every Nintendo machine since NES, except Virtual Boy and Game Boy Pocket. But I don't even want a DS, and the prospect of what could be Revolution scares me. The nostalgic Nintendo lover in me may be silenced after this generation of consoles is over. It certainly is for the handheld market.

[Queen]

The dual screen on the DS is annoying. I played Metroid on it while shopping at Target one day.
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[Eggith Cyrene]

ds or psp?



Bottom line which ever system ports/upgrades/remakes suikoden 1 and 2
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[Lucied]

Ok, let's start from the top...

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[Lucied]

Hmm. Let me try this without quotes :?

Yes, some more well known people have said the graphics have gotten as far as they want. But I recall Nintendo sounding like they thought graphics couldn't get any better than what they are. That they've reached a peak, of sorts. And I really don't think that's possible just yet.

I call the touch screen a gimmick because, well, I personally am not very easily swayed by new concepts. I'm still not sold on voice chatting or voice recognition in videogames. And I'm still starting to get used to online gaming (without the voice chat). So to see this touch screen, I'm not convinced it's that big of a deal just yet.

Yeah, Feel The Magic. But I've heard that only has 25 mini-games, some of which are too similar to others, while Wario Ware has like, 100+ games.

As for Pac-Pix, I still don't know how the game would work. I do know you have to draw the whole Pac before he goes off. Meaning you have to connect your lines. So I think it might be easy enough to try to draw two mouths.
But another problem with that is that people can draw obscene Pacs. And we all know how paranoid Nintendo is about anything related to porn being anywhere near their games. (Yes, Pac-Pix is by Namco, but still...)

You can generally pause in multiplayer games, but when it's online and stuff, you are vulnerable. And will die. I would think DS would be the same.

Gamespot said that the plastic covering the PSP screen doesn't end at the screen. The same plastic covers the entire system. It's just transparent over the screen, and black everywhere else. From the sounds of it, the cover would be quite resistent. Though I haven't read about any actual tests regarding that. Then again, if it's just one solid cover, I wouldn't think it'd be too difficult to swap covers, or get an extra third party cover. Also, it was said a while back that Sony was using an extremely scratch resistent coating that was used on other Sony gadgets. Gamespot said they had to gouge the screen of one of the products with a knife before it would show any signs of damage. If Sony used that on the PSP, then I'm sure it wouldn't get too beat up.

As for age groups, well, I think Sony sees the rise in gadget use in adults. The NGage, while unpopular, is one example of adults getting into handheld gaming. I personally think that Sony will be successful at grabbing this new market. Handhelds are thought of as being for kids because Nintendo, a kids company, has been dominating the market for 15 years. The only handhelds out there have been marketed toward kids. Just the same way the console market was when the PS1 came out. Sony helped change the perception of game consoles, and I think they will do it for handhelds.

I know of what negatives there are about the PSP. But the more I read about it, the more those concerns are put to rest. With DS, though, I'm just not sold on the product. I don't like certain things about it, and I'm just not convinced of the concept. That, and I personally think that the PSP will have much better games.

Oh, and I'm only on my second PS2 :) My first one I got at launch.

And I kind of find it interesting you think Nintendo won't take Sony lightly. They know that now, I'm sure. I don't know how seriously they took Sony when the PS1 was announced. I find it amusing and ironic that it was Nintendo that brought Sony into the industry to begin with. And now they're struggling to survive and compete against the newfound giant of gaming. The "Big N" is losing their grip, and it's to Sony, the company they brought in. Oh the irony. At least they didn't give Sony the rights to Mairo and Link, like they did for Philips-Magnavox (remember the CD-I?).

[Sami]

Well, I'm not sold on the PSP. It seems the battery life problem might be even worse than speculated. With Sony telling that it is up to the programmers to optimize battery performance, what it actually means is that they would have to make the screen as dim as possible, fit the whole game in the PSP's 32 MB memory to prevent disc spinning and lower the music volume. Games like Metal Gear Acid and Gran Turismo are going to use up the battery pretty quick.

Sony seems to be playing the PSP as an opening card: they're supplying only 200,000 units to the Japanese launch, and generally taking it slowly. It seems that they know they won't have a chance against Nintendo this time, unlike with PSX when Nintendo was taking their time with the N64. So they want to get a foot between the door and play it from there, setting up for their full scale battle against Nintendo in the next handheld generation, beyond the DS and the PSP.

[ZeroX1]

To be honest, from what I have heard about the PSP, it will not be able to play PS and PS2 games (although I could be wrong). However the DS has it's bad points as well. The DS games are no bigger than my thumbnail, however even though it can play GBA games and transmit to other DS systems it really isn't all it's chocked up to be.
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