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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I didn't want to start a new thread, and I suppose it deals with language, so I'll just mention it here.

If theres one thing I don't like, its when people in alternative worlds (ie. the world of Suikoden) use phrases or figures of speech that are derived from folklore on Earth. I can't think of too many examples, but the most recent one I can recall is 'Davey Jones locker' being mentioned in Suikode V. Granted that whole segment was kind of tongue-in-cheek, but I still don't like it. Surely the Suikoden world would have its own figures of speech and metaphors etc. instead of taking them from Earth fairytales or folk lore. I know a lot of the things contained within the Suikoden world are from Earth (more specifically Earth stories, folklore etc.) techinically, but you know what I mean.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Sorta like how invading aliens and stuff always know the Sun by our name for it?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

rakashu wrote:
I'd like to see some indian or arabic names, I find those cultures to be very interesting and normally have to do with great storys involving politics, death, backstabbing etc. All what a good suikoden game is all about? =D

I mean, we've had the Native American theme, the oceanic theme, the imperial theme, and the japanese theme.

Perhaps next time it will be a arabian theme of some sort?


Well, there are a couple of characters that look Arabic or have Arabic names in the games. Kasim, Murad, Mohsen are all Arabic names, there's also Shin who looks like an Arabian or an Indian, and there's Dinn who has an Arabic named weapon.

Also, the New Armes Kingdom seems to have an Arabian like culture, andwho knows, we might get a future Suiko set in that region =3
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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rakashu wrote:
I'd like to see some indian or arabic names, I find those cultures to be very interesting and normally have to do with great storys involving politics, death, backstabbing etc. All what a good suikoden game is all about? =D

I mean, we've had the Native American theme, the oceanic theme, the imperial theme, and the japanese theme.

Perhaps next time it will be a arabian theme of some sort?


Murad is a Arabic name i guess.


Yes, Murad is a very common Arabic Name. So are Mohsen and Wasil.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

-Lazlo is in Spanish... (i think :roll: )
-Mizuki, Kate and Akaghi (Japanese)
-Nash Latkje is in....Spanish+Russian??
-Hortez VII is kinda....Arabic??
-and many more.... :*laugh*:
(this game is worldly!! :mrgreen: )
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'd say Hortez was Egyptian.

Is Wan Chinese or Japanese?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Wan is chinese and Hortez is a spanish surname.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Flamo Bringer wrote:
-Lazlo is in Spanish... (i think :roll: )


According to this page, it's Slavic in origin.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Hortez is a spanish surname.

That may be, but if you look at his full name,Nefentitiri Radames Ampenhetep Iruiktanas Antikoseus Puto Remaios Kureakias Dimetirios Farasmuseian Ishak Saraj Amenenuhet Tatomes Hatshepsut Toto Ank Amen Hortez, it's definitely Egyptian. The Hatshepsut and Ampenhetep really give it away.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Right off of the top of my head, Silva is Latin for 'forest'. [Example: Pennsylvania = Penn's forest]

I would like to see more Italian / Latin names. I wish I was a little more awake to come up with a few more examples, however.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Actually, his whole name is Nefentitiri Radames mpenhetep Iruiktanas Antikoseus Puto Remaios Kureakias Dimetirios Farasmuseian Ishak Saraj Amenenuhet Atomes Hatshepsut Toto Ank Amen Hortez VII

Hortez is spanish and P-uto is a bad word in spanish(It's kind of weird this place has a spanish fliter >.> )
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Right off of the top of my head, Silva is Latin for 'forest'.


Silva does mean woods, but it isn't an italian name. Its actually one of the most popular Portuguese surnames. I would like to see some more Iberian influences on the names. Portuguese and Spanish names have always been some of my favorites.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I just thought it was amusing that the voice actors didn't pronounce certain german words with a german sound. Like the Wilhelm merc brigade.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Sanchez and Sancho are Spanish names, aren't they?

I was told that the name Kasim means "sword" in Arabic. Alhazred is an Arabic name as well, but that character's name is more of a reference to the Lovecraft character of the same name.

The Zexen Knights themselves have Brittish names I suppose, since they're named after Knights of the Round Table. Or so I was told by two different people. I'm not familiar with the story of King Arthur. Except Borus (who should have been called Bors to stay accurate).

I remember a long time ago there was a drawn out discussion on how Luc and Sasarai might have related names. I'm not sure if they derive from the same language...I know that Luc is French, and I think someone said Sasarai was Russian-inspired?

As for Armes, they aren't Arabic; they're ancient Ottoman.

Silverberg sounds like a Jewish name.

As for French, I can think of Luce and Lyon. Luce meaning "light" and Lyon being a city in France. Or is Luce Italian? I forget...

Milich Oppenheimer is a German name I believe. Augustine Nabor sounds Spanish or Portugeuse. Simone Verdricci is French. What would Vincent de Boule be, French as well? It seems the narcs are well rounded in this regard.

Juli Latkje (sp!!!) is Slavic I think? I know her first name is pronounced more like "yuuli" (or so XenoSaga has led me to believe), and I don't even know how to say Latkje. SARS tried explaining it once, but I had a seizure.

Richard of S5 also had a German name, like Mueller and Wilhelm, but his name was changed to the English equivalent for some reason. I have no idea what the original German name is.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Blue Thunder wrote:
Sanchez and Sancho are Spanish names, aren't they?


Yep, they are Spanish, by origin.

The first time I played Suikoden I, I was confused with both of them - I thought Sancho was the traitor, while Sanchez (who looks like Ric Flair) was the Squire of Maximillian.

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Augustine Nabor sounds Spanish or Portugeuse.


I think it's still French, as most Narcissists names are. Augustin or Agustin would be more fitting for a Spanish name.
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