Sasarai

Tokuro · Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject:

Yeah but Luc said to Geddoe that he was about to die cause he lost his rune. Does that means Geddoe would age faster or that he needed the power of the rune to stay alive?

Valec · Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject:

He said the power had not left him entirely... He said "The rune's power has not left you entirely, but you will die... Eventually." Or something to that effect. Geddoe seemed to be quite old as it was. He must have been, what, 40 something when he got the rune? I believe it simply meant he wouldn't live for a long time from Luc's point of view.

Sasarai109 · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:35 am Post subject:

Valec is right I remeber him saying something like that to Sasarai too didn't he?He says something like it won't kill you yet the runes power is still inside you but eventually you will die without the Rune. Maybe Geddoe would die sooner as he looks older, but Sasarai had his Rune from birth but who knows.
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Blackjack · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:15 am Post subject:

Tokuro · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject:

That is what I was thinking. Would he simply age faster or does he hage got a dependence of the true rune power to keep himself alive? I am using Geddoe as an example because Sasarai would have in theory much more dependence of the rune than Geddoe or anyone else, seeing that he carries it since a baby

Blackjack · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject:

Not necessarily, since Sasarai (and Luc, for that matter) was allowed to age normally until the point that we see him in Suikoden III, whereas Geddoe had been ageless for over fifty years.
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Dura Sinai · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject:

Uh... no pretty much the agiong stops right around suikoden II considering they look nearly the same save costume and hair changes. If they aged up to the third game, they would look Nash's age, not teenagers.

Valec · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject:

I think it merely ages to the point of physical prime... It allows them to get to the peak of their performance, but never past that. As Geddoe was probably past that point when he got the rune, he remained ageless. It makes sense.

Solitude · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject:

According to Suikox's timeline Geddeo was born in the Solar Year 364. The time the Second Fire Bringer War came around it was the year 475. This would make Geddeo 111 years old. I believe Geddeo got the True Lightning Rune 70 years prior to the Second Fire Bringer War (I remember the manga saying something like this) That would make Geddeo 41 years old at the time he got the True Lightning Rune. This is about the age he looks in the game. This is the age at which Geddeo's body stopped aging.

As we know, normal human beings live longer than the age of 41, even in the Suikoden world. A body doesn't die due to it being in existance for hundreds of years it dies because it ages to much. So if a body hasn't aged then it will keep on living. When Luc said that Geddeo will die eventually I'm pretty sure he was just implying that he was no longer gifted with eternal life, not that he was going to die soon. That and I highly doubt that Geddeo will now age at an accelerated rate to catch up with how long he has been alive.

Tokuro · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject:

Considering that Luc has eternal life, dying in a decades would really mean soon...but that is not yet what I am trying to ask. What I want to ask is:
Is possible that a bearer of a true rune after a long time gains a dependece for that rune energy? Specially when the case is Sasarai. How was the process Hikusaak use it to make him alive? I always guessed that Hikusaak make the body, but it was the true earth that actually gave Sasarai a "soul"and a will.

Valec · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject:

Mmmmm... Not sure on the details of Sasari's origin, but if it was the rune that gave him a soul, he should have died straight after losing the rune. Even if he still had some of the power of the rune, he should have lost his will and such.

Are you sure they're not simply his children??

The true runes intrigue me a lot, so I enjoy learning about them. I highly doubt a rune has that ability. ( The gift of a soul I mean ) However, I do believe they hold the memories of past wielders. This is a very confusing concept and Konami needs to release more information of it.

Sasarai109 · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject:

Well Luc & Sasarai were composed of those things inside that floating Sindar technology Orb, Luc shows Sasarai in the Crystal Valley Bishop room. I think there bodies are just hosts of those things combined so that they could be the hosts of the true Runes.

In regards to Sasarai & Luc's appearance I think they are said to of stopped their aging around 20-21. Use the Flame Champion as an example for this argument because we saw how young he looked and was in the flashback with him & Sana. He looked around 25 so then he said to Sana after everything that he'd give up his Rune and live out his life regularly. When we see Sana she is old and said the Flame Chapion died not to long before you show up a the Flame champ hideaway. So he would've lived for around 45-47 years after he gave up the Rune probably. So in that respect you could imagine that they would all live most likely till there eventual death of old age. Yeah and maybe Sasarai would be more dependant on the Rune as he was born to host it.
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