Question regarding mounting...

Kobold · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: Question regarding mounting...

It says that defensive skills don't work. I suppose the more obvious ones would be things like parry. But what others don't work? Dodge and Guard, are they useless for mounted characters as well?

And battle lust. Of course when you're mounted, you can only attack once. But is battle lust completely useless for mounted characters? Battle lust is supposed to increase damage as well besides just swinging more. And it works for special attack as well. So the question is does battle lust increase the damage of a unit at all when it is mounted?

As a summary, i'm asking which are the skills exactly are totally useless to mounted characters...

I need definite answers... This has been rather bothering me...
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Buff · Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject:

the same attack points you deal to an enemy with battle lust equiped will do the same amount of damange you do mounted. say tristian deals 150 hp damange with swinging his blade 3 times with battle lust, when you mount him on a kangacorn he will do the same amount of damange.

i found it that if they are mounted on some thing they have a higher chance of dodging the enemies attack. especially when you are on a owl. i also believe that parry and guard won't work based on that fact you won't need them since you will most likely dodge the attack anyways.
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sybillious · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:36 am Post subject:

on the battle lust, i'd say it was a split; the defensive bonus is lost, while the damage is kept for the most part-it might be harder to notice due to the cut back in attack number.

shield defense would also be lost, but i think armor is kept? (can't remember if millay gets that or not).

the defensive bonus for mount (especially armored mount) seems to be much higher than it would be unmounted; i've noticed that a character will take more damage unmounted (even with the sword of 'x' spell active) than they do mounted. add in the sword of 'x' spell and most take extremely low damage, usually less than 10 hp.
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Elzamine · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject:

I used Trishtan mounted and found he hit for aboutt he same amount but could definitely take more damage. They do keep dodge though, which has been mentioned. I don't use unarmored mounts though, so I don't know if it's worth it to use an unmounted character.
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Buff · Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject:

Kobold · Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:23 am Post subject:

Hmm.. Ok so dodge works... My main question now is whether battle lust has ANY use at all to a mounted unit... Let's say... Specifically an armored kanga...

And Guard is of no use as well right?
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sybillious · Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:32 am Post subject:

i think it does; you may have to experiment a bit to test this out. try it alone, then mounted, then alone+sword of magic 'x' and then mounted+sword of magic 'x' to see what happens.

it may cut down on number, but i don't think the amount of damage per hit goes down, just the amount of hits.

guard may not apply mounted, since dodge seems to kick in mounted, so i'll say yes, guard doesn't work. i can't remember that ever kicking in when mounted, but did see it unmounted, while i saw guard unmounted (i think they only apply to the given situation??).
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Kobold · Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject:

Hmmm yeah... I guess i should test things out a little.. I asked because i was lazy and hoped that someone would have tested it before and have a definite answer. :p
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Buff · Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject:

sybillious · Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:41 am Post subject:

thanks for the reiteration; hits=attacks. i was talking about the amount per hit, which means the hp damage done in ONE hit.

your hp damage shows that it does work, from the damage point of view, if that one hit delivers more damage on the average than the three unmounted hits combined.
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