Eilie and Rina... Karayans ?

[Vextor]

Oh my god, it's Falcon Critical!! The legend has returned!

Back to the topic--the whole concept of the Karaya clan already existed back in the time of Suikoden 2 because the Karayans appear as your enemies. This means Rina and Eilie definately were not Karaya tribe members, because they would have at least made some passing comment as they ruthlessly slaughtered the tribesmen--or at least, one would hope such a mention would be made if that were to be true.

[Rai-Jin]

[Zaj I mean Mike]

I think eighter they or Richmond says there from grasslands {I can't remember if they sayed Karayan or if I made it up}. Although I think there was something about them getting the tan from tralveling so they may have been Safarin or a nother lite sinked clan.
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[Beethoven4567]

I remember somewhere in Suikoden 3 there is a Karayan man in love with a Zexen woman and another Karayan male with a Chishan woman :D .

The strong point is, if you love someone, then why must race matters?
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[Kobold]

You know, the grasslands is not only composed of the six clans. For all we know, Eilie and Rina are probably just from some other small village in Grasslands, where their parents are traders. In fact, they could even be mixed blood people... Like perhaps a Chisha father and a Karayan mother... Or something like that...

Also, we should take into account of Rina's Torot reading profession. I believe she learnt that from her mother if i remember correctly. Really, i can't see a Karayan woman teaching tarot card reading... So the chance of them coming from some unknown grassland village is more possible.

If one were to name a clan for every grasslander, i'd also be asking where Martha is originally from... Oh well...

And Camaro... Since they're called the free knights of Camaro, i'd think Camaro isn't really ruled by anyone... Then again, i'd like to ask WHAT country exactly is Camaro part of? Are they grasslanders or are they part of the Northern Outlands?
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[genne_atreides]

If they're Karayans, why both clothes aren't has Karayan pattern?
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[Axiose]

Because they're not Karayans.
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[Camus the Noble]

Quite possible. Their clothes certainly look Karayan, but they might have just put those on to make the circus look more exotic. But anyway, not a bad theory, as theories go.

[Kobold]

Who said they had to be from any specific clans? They could very well be hybrids who travel around grasslands... Anything is possible. The Grasslands isn't restricted to the 6 clans.
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[Hybrid]

I would like to think they're Safir, since we haven't see any of them and don't know what they look like.

They could be from a tribe that's an off-shoot of the Karaya clan.

[Axiose]

But this is all speculation with nothing to base it on. Where is their evidence that there is an offshoot tribe of Karaya? Where does it say what they look like?

Personally I think Karaya would be unlikely as they're traveling with Bolgan who born in Zexen and typically, Karayans dislike Zexens.

Safir - we know nothing about and as this point is getting drummed over and over, it's pointless for people to keep going on about that they could be from Safir because we don't know anything about them.

As Kobold and many others have pointed out, they could be the multitude of other places in Grassland that we don't see in the game.

People can believe for them to be from anywhere, but as they don't fit the type to be from any villages we know about, it's rather pointless to continue this thread.
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