Suikoden + Other Series comparisons

[Benit149]

I was drawing a crossover picture of a pair you might not expect, yet when it's explained makes some sense: McDohl and Sailor Saturn. Both of them are bearers of the power of Death, and some fanart I've seen of McDohl has him carrying a scythe instead of his bo stick to emulate the Soul Eater. Saturn has her Silence Glaive, of course. My friend even made another startling mention: while McDohl killed his father, Saturn/Mistress 9 came close to killing her father. Hotaru and McDohl are also pretty nice people, once you get past their powers over Death. Their powers are vastly different, with the Soul Eater devouring souls close to McDohl, while Saturn can destroy herself along with everything else, but hey: different people, different tastes.

So then I thought, "What other crossover comparisons could be made with Suikoden characters?" I know that in another thread, someone mentioned that Vincent from the Cowboy Bebop movie was similar to Luc in S3. Liete from Grandia is a bit like Leknaat in that during the majority of the game, Liete appears as a vision and speaks cryptically, much like how Leknaat does, although Liete joins your party as a strong sorceress.

You guys have any other Suikoden/Other Series comparisons to add that are very close to each other? And no, spare me the "X and Y r aliek cuz their kewl" reasons, please.
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[Cedric]

Yeah there are plenty of Cliché's going around that would also connect to Suikoden. That's what happens when you have 108 characters in every game; you're bound to have some crossovers. About that comparison about Liete and Leknaat. The main difference is that Liete smiles and she doesn't really stand around and "let fate take its course". She's actually more unlike Leknaat in her habits because she's willing to help Justin, Feena, and Rapp change the world. She does have a monotone dialogue at times, though. They're both really mysterious.

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Skirt-chasing Sheena is a lot like many characters from games, anime, manga etc. You know who they are. I cant really call upon anyone at the moment aside from Keitaro from Love Hina, but the real concept with these guys is that when their characters are developed, you find them to be really good people. He did take you to see President Lepant. (Even if it probably was an attempt to go home for free)

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Then there's Mai Shiranui, Lulu, Tifa Lockheart, and Jeane. Err. "Eye Candy" moving on . . .

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Nash's attitude reminds me of Edgar Roni Figaro from final Fantasy 6. He's got that chivalrous lover boy image. But make no mistake about it, Edgar and Nash can fight really well. For that matter, their brief "love interests" Chris and Terra act exactly like one another as well. They both remain closed to their surroundings and rather keep to themselves. Chris has said that to Yun saying she "distanced herself from the other knights" and Terra act like this until she became a mom to those Orphan children.

Basic Review of Terra/Chris and Nash/Edgar at the start of the respective games.

Edgar/Nash: "You're pretty"

Terra/Chris: ". . . Ok . . ."

(Repeat for about 2 chapters)


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Sticking with the Final Fantasy 6 references, Clyde Arrowny (Relm Arrowny's father, aka Shadow) acts a lot like Watari. Both Shadow and Watari have pasts that they are escaping and as a result, they had to sacrifice the only family they had. (Relm/Strago and the Kage) But in the end, they decide to confront their past instead of running from it. Watari faces Ayame in an attempt to stop her from chasing him, and Shadow died (I think?) back in Kefka's tower telling his friend up in heaven that he plans "To start over" his life.

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Suikoden doesn't have a cutesy mascot like a Moogle, but I suppose the Squirrels and dogs are the closest you can get.

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Kefka, Tuta, (Suikoden 2), Bridgett (Guilty Gear) Rico, Kasios, Dead End (Tekkaman Blade 2) are all victims of the "Are you a boy or a girl?" syndrome.

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I'm sure there are many others out there. I won't hog the topic to myself.
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[Benit149]

Oh, I thought of another one with Nanami and Akane from Ranma 1/2: they are BAD cooks. It's amazing that Riou's stomach can withstand Nanami's bad cooking while they were growing up, so I guess he's used to anything. Ranma, on the other hand... poor guy, being forced to eat Akane's cookies.
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[butters]

Viktor and Sabin (FF6) Both very rash and while there fighting styles are very diffrent there both are very confident in there skills

Flik and Locke (FF6) Both mourn the deaths of there loved ones and blame themselves for there deaths

Sheena and Zelos (Tales of Symphonia) both have that laid back attitude and love the ladies ;)

Uhm..I'll try and think of some more
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[Zaj I mean Mike]

Pair Maximillan and Sancho with Don Quioxte and Sancho man did they rip him off :D
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[Lazlo]

How about Suikoden Tactics and Final Fantasy Tactics? There's a comparison...

[josiskrazy]

one i like to mention is Leknaat and Nagi from Legend of Basara...who is like a male counterpart to Leknaat...

theier similar becuz they both guide the hero as the hero gathers people to help fight a war...both are prophets and very wise...

heres a picture of him...he's always shown with his eyes closed, but i dont think he's blind tho...
http://www.slumpy.net/basara/gallery/posters/nagi.jpg

everyone should try to watch the anime or read the manga of Basara...its kinda like Suikoden...

quick mention of Kika and Cha Cha (also from Basara)...thier both female pirate leaders who are very tough...
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[Camus the Noble]

Suikodens II and III, as well as LUNARs Silver Star Story and Eternal Blue, deal with misguided characters who, beacause of a lack of faith in humanity, decide that they will create a future utopia by eliminating much of current life. I feel that this is a very strong similarity between the two series.

Suikoden II has Jowy. Raised in a hostile environment, he grows up to believe that he must manipulate and kill people to create a peaceful world. He kills Annabelle, assassinates Agares, uses Riou, and masterminds the killing of Luca, all for the sake of future peace. When his ambitions fall (along with L'Renouille), he even attempts to orchestrate in own death, to unite the people in hatred of himself. Fortunately, Riou, Leknaat, and Shu showed him the error of his ways.

In SIII, we have Luc. Because he was created for the sole purpose of being a vessel for a Rune, he is naturally pessimistic and distrusting. His True Wind Rune shows him a vision of a future in which dharma has triumphed over chaos by ridding the world of life. To prevent this, he plans to sacrifice one million lives and destroy the True Rune, an instrument of dharma. Eventually, he is defeated by the Fire Bringer and finds peace in death.

WARNING!!! LUNAR SILVER STAR AND ETERNAL BLUE SPOILERS BELOW!!!!

In LUNAR: Silver Star, the backstory is this: the Divine Goddess Althena reincarnates herself as a human. Her follower, the mage Ghaleon is mortified; he believes that humans are unable to govern themselves without an all-powerful deity watching over them. Fifteen years later, he comes in contact with the girl, Luna, and kidnaps her, with the apparant intention of restoring her divinity to her. However, he eventually reveals his true motive; he seeks to steal her godly power and take her place. Alex, Luna's lover, defeats Ghaleon and returns Luna to the land of LUNAR.

In LUNAR 2: Eternal Blue, one thousand years after the events of LUNAR: Silver Star, Althena's servant, Lucia, is sent from the Blue Star to LUNAR, to stop Althena's nemesis, Zophar, from destroying it. Lucia meets a young adventurer named Hiro and demands to be taken to see Althena, who is nowadays supposedly living in the holy city of Pentagulia. During their travels, they learn that Zophar has resurrected Ghaleon, that the Althena in Pentagulia is a fake, and worst of all, that the goddess Althena died after living out a mortal life as Luna. Lucia then decides to suck Althena's magic out of the land to defeat Zophar, but killing all life in the process. Zophar kidnaps her before that happens, and then, Ghaleon, who has repented, but cannot act against Zophar's will, allows Hiro and co. to kill him, and then tells them where to go. Hiro gets Lucia to believe in the power of humanity, and they defeat Zophar, saving the world.

All four games feature characters who are skeptical in humanity's power to create peace (and who can blame them!). All four characters repent. Both seires contain strong messages about the inherent good of mankind -- a very strong comparison indeed.

[Zeik Tuvai]

I don't know why... That trying to create a future utopia reminds me of the MegaMan X series, specifically MegaMan x4 (I think I can beat this game blindfolded now...). X and Zero fight the robots who've gone bag, ex. attack human cities, people, other robots, etc. Those "Mavericks" as they are called, tried to build themselves a oribiting satellite weapon to "create" their new world by destroying the old. 'Course, X and Zero saved the day...